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    The Truth
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    Training Wheels and Race Wheels

    Do you use a separate wheelset for training and racing? What do you se for each? Tires?

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    two training wheelsets, two race wheelsets, plus a disc.

    404 Tubulars (carbon braking) for most racing. Conti Tubulars
    Fir Killing System Disc for TTs. Conti Tubular
    Shimano 7800 clincher (Aluminum braking) wheelset for rainy races or sketchy roads. Conti Attack/Force
    Alex and easton wheelsets for training. Specialized armadillo

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    I switch between race tires and training tires. But even now, with races every weekend, I get lazy during the week sometimes and just leave the race tires on. Tires are Schwalbe Evolutions, with the separate front and rear tires with different treads.

    I'd like some nice carbon tubulars for races. I recently scratched together some money, but put it towards a power meter instead.

    Maybe next season for the carbon bling wheels.

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    yes,

    Training (handbuilt): Fir Pin Rims laced to Miche hubs (36 DT spoked), Tires: Conti GP4000

    Racing: Reynolds Alta Race, Tires: Vittoria Open Corsa EVO CX


    My training wheels are bombproof but VERY heavy. The added weight is a nice training device and the bombproofness is a must on the crap roads I ride on.
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    Training wheelset is a PowerTap SL / open pro rear. Front wheel is also my climbing race wheel. It is an American Classic hub / RR1.1 rim.

    For climbing races I use the American Classic / RR1.1 front and back built by Mike Garcia.
    For flatter races I use Spinergy Stealth PBO carbons.
    I may be fat but I'm slow enough to make up for it.

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    Training Wheels: Mavic Cosmos with Pro2Race
    Mavic Ksyrium Elite with Pro2Race
    Training and Racing Wheels: Mavic Ksyrium SSC SL with Pro2Race
    Racing Wheels: Reynolds Stratus DV Carbon Clinchers with Pro2Race
    Last edited by jit5; 03-16-07 at 06:46 AM.

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    I'm not going to bore you with brand names.

    Yes, it's good to have separate wheels for training and racing.
    My training wheels are usually heavier rims with heavy tires.

    Now, some people will argue that there is no benefit to training with heavier wheels, but those people are wrong.

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    Training wheels: DT Swiss RR 1.1 front laced to a Cyclops hub RR 1.1 rear PowerTap SL (campagnolo) Continental Gatorskins

    Race Wheels: Flat to rolling RR's and crits Reynolds Stratus DV UL's (Vittoria Tubular tires). Hilly to mountainous RR's Reynolds KOM UL's (Vittoria Tubular tires)

    Wheel truck: Open Pros with Chorus hubs and Gatorskins (also my back up training wheels).

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    Well, I haven't officially started racing yet....

    Train on Bontrager Race Lite wheels w/ Bontrager Race Lite HardCase tires.

    Will race on Niobium 30 wheels that Mike Garcia built up, 20f/24r DT Super Comp triple butted spokes, SpeedCific Serenity hubs, brass nipples on the drive side (alu ones everywhere else), steel skewers, Michelin Pro 2 Race tires.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GuitarWizard
    Well, I haven't officially started racing yet....

    Train on Bontrager Race Lite wheels w/ Bontrager Race Lite HardCase tires.

    Will race on Niobium 30 wheels that Mike Garcia built up, 20f/24r DT Super Comp triple butted spokes, SpeedCific Serenity hubs, brass nipples on the drive side (alu ones everywhere else), steel skewers, Michelin Pro 2 Race tires.
    enough talking the talk, time to start walking the walk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GuitarWizard
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    no time like the present. get your ass down to bethel tomorrow.

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    Oh....yeah, I actually looked into that the other week. Looks interesting, but there's a closer series to me in East Hartford that starts up in I think May....
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    Yes, different wheels...

    Training: Reynolds Alta Race
    Racing: Reynolds Stratus DV UL

    Crappy weather wheels: Bontrager Race
    Trainer wheels (rear): Shimano WH-R540

    I know, I know... too many wheels... I just can't help myself from finding new deals! :-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by audiojan
    Yes, different wheels...

    Training: Reynolds Alta Race
    Racing: Reynolds Stratus DV UL

    Crappy weather wheels: Bontrager Race
    Trainer wheels (rear): Shimano WH-R540

    I know, I know... too many wheels... I just can't help myself from finding new deals! :-)
    no such thing as too many wheelsets!

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    Training = Ksyrium Equipe's with Hutchisons
    Racing = Zipp 340 Tubular (Carbon braking surface, 24/28h Zipp Carbon front and DA7800 rear) Vittoria's

    I'd also use the Ksyriums for wet / sketchy / rough / poorly supported (bad enough to carry a tube and pump to get home on) races.

    I'm eventually going to get some Open Pros or Open Sports for training on. Possibly by selling the Ksyriums, I'm not sure. I don't like them all that much and I'd rather have some non-bladed, box section wheels for training on.
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    Training and racing: Zipp 404 clinchers with a PT SL

    Also have a set of Zipp 303 tubulars that I'm going to use for hilly races.

    And a HED Disc and Tri spoke for TT's

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    Quote Originally Posted by EventServices
    Now, some people will argue that there is no benefit to training with heavier wheels, but those people are wrong.
    Incorrect.

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    Training/Rainy Weather Wheels-32 spoke Mavic Open Pros/Campy Ventos
    Race Wheels-Rolf Vigor SL's and Rolf Elan's
    Racing tires vary from Michelin Pro Race, Pro Grip, Deda Tre Corsa, and Veloflex Pave.
    Sometimes I use my race wheels on fast group training rides if the weather is good.
    running makes your legs nasty. Cycling makes them look a weird way that i like.

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    I think training outside regularly on an aero (50mm deep dish type) front wheel will let you get away with using a similar wheel in windy conditions. I did this for many years using a front (Specialized) Trispoke and would use my race Trispokes at races. I was more squirrelly on non-aero wheels than aero wheels.

    I train on either a Trispoke (clincher) front, old Eurus, or some FIR wheels. Most of the time I train on the Eurus on a trainer as I rarely ride outside.

    I race on either Trispokes (tubs), Reynolds DVs (tubs), or if I got scared of the wind, some random non-aero front wheel. Don't remember the last time I ran into that situation.

    cdr

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    All wheels have Michelin ProRace2's

    Racing: Cosmic Carbones
    Training/Racing: Ksyrium SL's & 2.4PT laced to open pro
    Training: Ksyrium Equipes

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    Quote Originally Posted by zimbo
    Incorrect.
    What the **** is with all of these people with one word contradictory replies.

    "Wrong."

    "Incorrect."

    You really should back that up with something, especially if you're shooting down someone like EventServices who is widely regarded as a knowledgeable poster on this forum and the Road Cycling forum.

    Yeah, that really awesome statement of "Incorrect" is going to convince a lot of people that ES is wrong and some dick from NC named "zimbo" is an expert in the field who is 100% correct.


    Some benefits:

    Durability
    Lower Price
    Ease of Repair / Replacement Parts

    Thats not even getting into the whole argument that your race wheels will feel lighter on race day (I can easily tell the difference between my 340s and Ksyriums in both stiffness and spin-up). That's certainly a psychological boost...
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    it's sort of an bikeforums inside joke to say "incorrect"

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    Quote Originally Posted by branman1986
    it's sort of an bikeforums inside joke to say "incorrect"
    correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by branman1986
    it's sort of an bikeforums inside joke to say "incorrect"
    It's basically people taking a pot shot at Botto

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