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Old 03-17-07, 11:32 AM   #1
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Does shoveling count as training?

Because if it doesn't, it should....

What we lacked around here in snow accumulation, we made up for in sleet/freezing rain on top of the snow. Well....actually at the peak we probably had a good 6-8" of snow, but that got compacted to about 3-4" with all the ice. So.....yeah....that was a lot of fun shoveling, especially the 7-8 feet at the end of my driveway from where the plows hit it. Took 2 1/2 hours to do my driveway, and I got quite the total body workout. Didn't get much of a cardio workout, as ever since doing a lot of base this winter, my HR never seems to really get up there while shoveling anymore.

At any rate...my body/back is all done today. So much for intervals. Good stuff.
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gosh this snow is packed heavy too!
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lol, I just did the same thing. Is it weird that I had fun?

I'm thinkin about hollowing out one of the giant mounds I made and gettin all vietkong on my yard.
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Friendly retiree neighbor with a plow=the good life.
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I thought of you guys today:

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Shoveling snow is a favorite way for older folks to have heart attacks in the winter... So yeah, I guess it's good training.
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you should be careful though, like anything else it uses a lot of different muscles. Wouldn't surprise me if you are very sore tomorrow.
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If you weren't weighing each shovelful of snow and calculating the distance you threw it so you could measure the work in kilojoules and calculate a TSS, though, I'm very disappointed in you.
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CF shovel handle I hope!
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you should be careful though, like anything else it uses a lot of different muscles. Wouldn't surprise me if you are very sore tomorrow.
Dude, I'm already very sore today....I can't wait to try to get out of bed tomorrow morning.

I injured my thoracic nerve (over 600mm of it) back when I was around 19-20 years old; was in the Delayed Entry Program for the Navy. Injured it by sleeping wrong when camping - slept on my right side with my right arm underneath me the entire night with no padding whatsoever. Woke up in the morning with my arm hurting so bad I thought I dislocated it. Also went from being able to do 400-500 pushups to not even 1 (was training for the Divefarer program). It took about a year to heal up, but it hasn't been the same since, and whenever I really exert my back muscles, the middle of my back starts to hurt.

Yeah....today was a lot of fun. On a positive note, my legs feel good

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On a related note, I hope drinking Guinness counts as training, cause I'm about to do a bit of that.

And then get up at 6am tomorrow for a 100 miler. This is going to be rough. But at least it ain't snowing here.
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I'm the friendly neighbor with a snow thrower. I did about 1,000 feet of sidwalks last night.
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I did shovel stage training today. Average cadence of 20 with a perceived effort rating a seven. Average heart rate in zone 3. The stages included 100 foot driveway, two decks and a path for the cats and dogs. I completed the final stage with a beyond category (HC) drift provided by our municipal snow plows.
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If you weren't weighing each shovelful of snow and calculating the distance you threw it so you could measure the work in kilojoules and calculate a TSS, though, I'm very disappointed in you.
powertap for shovels! And yeah, shovelling counts as cross training. Now you need base miles.
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Oh, I have plenty of base miles.....I've been building up a little intensity as of late. I think the shoveling really helped the core muscles out, as afterwards I could barely stand up because my body was so tired.

Legs were fine though

This **** really needs to melt and the roads need to clear up ASAP. I was sooooooo into spring mode earlier this week, and now it's back to winter mode. Talk about having your motivation go down the ****ter.
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lol, I just did the same thing. Is it weird that I had fun?

I'm thinkin about hollowing out one of the giant mounds I made and gettin all vietkong on my yard.
"C" vietcong. there's a reason they called them "VC."
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Because if it doesn't, it should....

What we lacked around here in snow accumulation, we made up for in sleet/freezing rain on top of the snow. Well....actually at the peak we probably had a good 6-8" of snow, but that got compacted to about 3-4" with all the ice. So.....yeah....that was a lot of fun shoveling, especially the 7-8 feet at the end of my driveway from where the plows hit it. Took 2 1/2 hours to do my driveway, and I got quite the total body workout. Didn't get much of a cardio workout, as ever since doing a lot of base this winter, my HR never seems to really get up there while shoveling anymore.

At any rate...my body/back is all done today. So much for intervals. Good stuff.
While we do pay a local landscaper to plow our large driveway, I still have to shovel the walks in front and back of my house. The last two storms each left us with about 12" of precip.- but had the warm air not mixed in the sleet/freezing crap would have been all snow in both storms, and I'm sure we would have gotten at LEAST 24". The result both times was this heavy sand-like snow that was very hard to shovel.

So yesterday AM I spent about 45 minutes unburying the front steps and walk. It was <25. I'm in pretty good condition. I was drenched in sweat. My low back and abs are still a bit sore this AM from that effort 24 hours ago.

Saturday I shoveled the walks (about an hour in total, I later shoveled the back walk), skiied (downhill skiing) for three hours and rode my bike 30 miles (easy ride). By far the hardest physical activity of the day was shoveling. I'm in the same situation - I'm supposed to do a training ride today (Nyack) that can be very fast, particularly in the Spring - and I'm hoping this stiffness will loosen up on the bike. Maybe everybody else has a sore back from shoveling too.

Then we went to see the movie '300' last night. I'm thinking to myself 'OK, those Spartans are tough, but they don't have to shovel'. Also the last time I saw that many six packs was in college (and those were beers). Odd film. Very dumb/very cool all at the same time. We liked it. Like a live action film version of a Frank Frazetta painting. Visually stunning.

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Shoveling snow is a favorite way for older folks to have heart attacks in the winter... So yeah, I guess it's good training.
Yup we found my neighbor face down in the snow about 12 years ago.

Anyone who wants some more training come on over, this ***** is so frozen it took my a while to clear a path from my door to my wife's car. The other 100ft of the driveway is untouched, so come on over and get training.
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Because if it doesn't, it should....

What we lacked around here in snow accumulation, we made up for in sleet/freezing rain on top of the snow. Well....actually at the peak we probably had a good 6-8" of snow, but that got compacted to about 3-4" with all the ice. So.....yeah....that was a lot of fun shoveling, especially the 7-8 feet at the end of my driveway from where the plows hit it. Took 2 1/2 hours to do my driveway, and I got quite the total body workout. Didn't get much of a cardio workout, as ever since doing a lot of base this winter, my HR never seems to really get up there while shoveling anymore.

At any rate...my body/back is all done today. So much for intervals. Good stuff.
Snowblower FTW!
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Why do you hate shovels?
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Why do you hate CPR?
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They don't work when it's 3 inches of ice.

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