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Old 03-19-07, 07:36 AM   #1
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field sizes around they country?

Just looking to see what the average of the field size is in your races, crit and RR. No BS just what you have noticed, if its 25 then you have much better odds of a top 10. (Not Nor-cal races as I am in that area)
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Just looking to see what the average of the field size is in your races, crit and RR. No BS just what you have noticed, if its 25 then you have much better odds of a top 10. (Not Nor-cal races as I am in that area)
MABRA. Fields are nearly always full. Crit and RR that means 75+.
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Central Texas 4's 75+ in just about every race this year, most fields have exceeded 100. The 5's have had multiple race groups to accommodate the number of entries. 3's also have been packed and the 1/2 Pro fields have had 75+. Racing is alive and well here.
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new mexico fields are pretty small; 1,2 and 3 are almost always combined (scored separetely). the 4s, juniors, and master's 3,4 are usually combined as well.

in contrast, when i was in phoenix, the fields were usually pretty large (40-60), and big races like "valley of the sun SR" you needed to register weeks in advance to ensure a spot.
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Just looking to see what the average of the field size is in your races, crit and RR. No BS just what you have noticed, if its 25 then you have much better odds of a top 10. (Not Nor-cal races as I am in that area)

^ i may be moving to the bay area in the fall, how big are the fields/what's the scene like in nor-cal?
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One of our collegiate fields (Philly Phlyer) had 99 riders. 99!
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99 isn't that many.
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Our race is in Southeastern Wyominig (Dead Dog Classic - two hours from Denver. We are an ACA race and therefore no Cat 5's (you can ride with one day licenses if not an ACA racer). Here is what we had last year for RR:

SM Pro 1,2 - 46
SM 3 - 72
SM 4 - 71
SM 35+ - 25
SM 35+, 4 - 44
SM 45 + - 46
SM 55+ - 21
SW 1-2 - 16
SW 3 - 14
SW 35+ - 13
SW 4 - 13

Crit numbers were about the same.

High altitude racing (all above 7200 ft) with quite a bit of climbing on the RR.

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^ i may be moving to the bay area in the fall, how big are the fields/what's the scene like in nor-cal?
This weekend was wait listed in the 4's for both the crit and RR at 100 people. I guess it is safe to say that bike racing has a good presence nation wide if 50+ riders in most cats show up weekend after weekend and yet we cant get on espn but darts and bowling can
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This weekend was wait listed in the 4's for both the crit and RR at 100 people. I guess it is safe to say that bike racing has a good presence nation wide if 50+ riders in most cats show up weekend after weekend and yet we cant get on espn but darts and bowling can
This has much more to do with cost of production than popularity. The cost of producing a cycling broadcast would be 10s of times higher than darts, bowling, poker, or billiards. The return in ad revenue would most likely be the same or less for cycling so from an economics stand point it's there isn't a cost/return benefit.
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EDR- yes I relize that and the no ticket sales, add hard to market to the public, and boring as watching paint dry to most. I dont want to derail this topic, just trying to see when some of the more popular racing areas are.
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EDR- yes I relize that and the no ticket sales, add hard to market to the public, and boring as watching paint dry to most. I dont want to derail this topic, just trying to see when some of the more popular racing areas are.

Well then back on topic

I'd like to add that we get these numbers at what are primarily road races. From late January to the end of April we have a packed schedule of RR's. Staring next week our weekly crit series starts up and then the monthly TT series starts. The summer months here are near dead for racing due to the brutal heat. Then then in the fall our cross season get going again with pretty large fields.

Although Southern California has can boast larger fields they mainly are for industrial park crits, which IMHO suck.
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the georgia cup races have a 75 rider limit for the races and they let it get well over the limit for the first of the season. I believe the crit had just over 75 and the RR had about 100 for the 4/5 field.
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This has much more to do with cost of production than popularity. The cost of producing a cycling broadcast would be 10s of times higher than darts, bowling, poker, or billiards. The return in ad revenue would most likely be the same or less for cycling so from an economics stand point it's there isn't a cost/return benefit.
How about for a track cycling event? It doesn't have the same problems as keeping up with a road race.
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FWIW, In the outer burbs, you can probably get a field around 1/2 acre in size. Out in the country, many towns have laws that say you can only buy lots that are 5 acres or larger.
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FWIW, In the outer burbs, you can probably get a field around 1/2 acre in size. Out in the country, many towns have laws that say you can only buy lots that are 5 acres or larger.
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just sayin.
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The first local crit was Saturday. They have A, B, C & D divisions. There were about 25 to 35 in each of the A, B and C groups and 5 or 6 in the D division.
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How about for a track cycling event? It doesn't have the same problems as keeping up with a road race.
I've never quite understood why track isn't more popular here any more. It used to be one of Americas biggest spectator sport, and if you've never been to one it's freak'n amazing to watch. You are right though it's the perfect sport for television. You could have cameras on the bikes and really see how much of contact sport this is.
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One of our collegiate fields (Philly Phlyer) had 99 riders. 99!
Last year, the first race of the college season in the C's had 150+. One conference, not two.
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Last year, the first race of the college season in the C's had 150+. One conference, not two.

and yet Philly Phlyer set the record for having the most Collegiate racers?

The Circuit Race for B's had 103 riders, 93 riders for the Crit. I don't care what others say, 93 riders on a 4 corner crit. course is pretty packed.
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I've done 3 road races so far this year, a 1/2/3, a cat 3 and a 3/4. Each race had around 30. The most we'll see around here in the summer is 45 or so. There are quite a few cat 4's and 3's in the area and a combined field on a nice day will bring most of them out.
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I've never quite understood why track isn't more popular here any more. It used to be one of Americas biggest spectator sport, and if you've never been to one it's freak'n amazing to watch. You are right though it's the perfect sport for television. You could have cameras on the bikes and really see how much of contact sport this is.
I have a little bit of helmet cam video from riding ADT, and there are a few vids from ADT and Encino on google video. I've always wanted to put cameras on both members of a madison team.

And yeah, it's great to watch. It's a distillation of all the exciting bits and you can see all the action all the time.
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and yet Philly Phlyer set the record for having the most Collegiate racers?

The Circuit Race for B's had 103 riders, 93 riders for the Crit. I don't care what others say, 93 riders on a 4 corner crit. course is pretty packed.
I was just stating that there was a race with a large number of racers in it, in one conference.

Oddly enough, I talked to the guy who won the Philly Phlyer Bs circuit race today. He goes to school in my home town. Pretty cool dude.
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