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Old 03-05-10, 11:30 AM   #3776
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and he's racing with adults. sounds like the perfect recipe for burn out by college.
Some Jr racing thrown in. He wants to do P/1/2 races soon.
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Old 03-05-10, 11:37 AM   #3777
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You always know best, don't you.
a hell of a lot more than you do, little boy.
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Old 03-05-10, 12:11 PM   #3778
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a hell of a lot more than you do, little boy.
Can't argue w/ that.
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Old 03-05-10, 12:36 PM   #3779
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and he's racing with adults. sounds like the perfect recipe for burn out by college.
Or going pro if he's not college bound. (But seeing how he has a power tap and carbon rims, his parents will probably want him to go to college.)
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Old 03-05-10, 12:48 PM   #3780
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By the way, I know the kid. He's moved up to Cat3 real quick. Tiny fella but knows how to mix it up with us big guys.
Nothing like a drivers license, an interest in women and a couple of underage vices to level the playing field.

I've lined up with him a couple of times.

He races smart too.

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Old 03-05-10, 12:52 PM   #3781
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The kid be suffering!!!
6th place,here's his blog
http://wronaracing.blogspot.com/
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Old 03-05-10, 09:09 PM   #3782
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I am the guy in the red with the blue helmet about to crash. Suffered a cut hand and two jamed fingers.
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Old 03-05-10, 10:00 PM   #3783
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omfg, sorry to hear that. Brilliant photo for you to have though.
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Old 03-05-10, 10:06 PM   #3784
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I am the guy in the red with the blue helmet about to crash. Suffered a cut hand and two jamed fingers.
Could have been worse... you could have been the guy in blue in the air or the guy in white on the ground
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Old 03-05-10, 10:10 PM   #3785
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I suffered in that race as well . . . or rather, the Cat 5A. The whole field got away from me on the uphill start.

But hey, at least I wasn't last.
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Old 03-05-10, 11:12 PM   #3786
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I'm sick and we started 1 man down. Bissel put 1:02 on second place. almost 32mph avg.



You can't see the snot and drool on my face but looking back to make sure we we're still all there before the line.

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Old 03-05-10, 11:45 PM   #3787
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Uh oh, Razor has made his way.
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I am the guy in the red with the blue helmet about to crash. Suffered a cut hand and two jamed fingers.
If you want a prime example of a jackass, look to the three guys on the front who put the hammer down when they hear a crash.
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If you want a prime example of a jackass, look to the three guys on the front who put the hammer down when they hear a crash.
You aren't supposed to stop racing just because there is a crash. You also can't tell cause or effect from the picture, often times the crash comes during pace changes, i.e. an attack after a lull.
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Old 03-06-10, 01:14 PM   #3790
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If you want a prime example of a jackass, look to the three guys on the front who put the hammer down when they hear a crash.


I used to think this way also but after being in the situation I find that I will goose the throttle when i hear a crash behind because Im worried about having my wheels swept out from under me...also its racing and people stuck behind, sucks to be you. (its been me plenty :snelling

good motivation to be at the pointy end
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You aren't supposed to stop racing just because there is a crash. You also can't tell cause or effect from the picture, often times the crash comes during pace changes, i.e. an attack after a lull.
True, but it sure looks like using a crash to launch an attack, which isn't cool.
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True, but it sure looks like using a crash to launch an attack, which isn't cool.
I don't think you can tell that from the picture.
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Old 03-06-10, 01:58 PM   #3793
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True, but it sure looks like using a crash to launch an attack, which isn't cool.
I disagree.
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The crash happened on the sprint finish. We were about 200m to go when it happened. The guys on the front are sprinting for the win. The guy in the air hit the first rider that crashed going 30-35 mph. I was able to lay on the brakes an slowed to 15 or so before I hit. I heard later that the first guy to crash just stood up to sprint and crashed for no reason. He is a known squirrely rider that everybody tries to avoid. I guess he was uninjured but his frame was broken in half. The guy upside down in the air dislocated his shoulder and broke two fingers.
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Here is a bigger picture. There was supposed to be a yellow line rule in effect.
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If you want a prime example of a jackass, look to the three guys on the front who put the hammer down when they hear a crash.
Crashes suck, and the field will usually wait if it's in the middle of a road race... but other than that, unless it's your teammate or the crash has already taken you out of contention and you've got nothing better to do than care for the guys on the ground, the crashed guys are in good hands with the nice fellows in the follow car or the medical tent and it's really not your problem.

And obviously, if you are 200m from the finish anyway and in winning position... might as well jam it to the line before turning around to see what happened.
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Here is a bigger picture. There was supposed to be a yellow line rule in effect.
OBRA would have absolutely no problem with relegating half of the field there.

OTOH, because it's at the finish, perhaps the race organizers open the road up at 200m? That's pretty common in OBRA land as well if a sprint finish is expected.
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OBRA would have absolutely no problem with relegating half of the field there.
If so, it would be irresponsible. A crash situation is an emergency, and you should not be penalized for trying to avoid crashing and taking others down. Even having a yellow line rule in a sprint is bogus, in my opinion.
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It's pretty obvious that people were well over the yellow well before the crash happened.

But I agree that having only half a road in a sprint is bogus.
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It's pretty obvious that people were well over the yellow well before the crash happened.

But I agree that having only half a road in a sprint is bogus.
bogus or not, it's pretty common, at least in races I've done. It's also been the source of at least one multiple collarbone crash in a race I was in. Maybe USAC should figure out a way of addressing this or hinting that promoters should try to open up the road
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