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    Postal Service sponsorship: how?

    I'm not sure why this bugged me enough to post...

    How was it that the US Postal Service was able to sponsor a team of cyclists? Can a federal government agency spend our tax dollars like this? Or was there some sort of donation by someone else in the name of the post office?
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    Boy, they'd better stop doing that.

    It's still a business, competing with UPS, FedEx, etc., and that takes advertising. If they got a decent ROI (which I bet they did considering Lance and all) they probably got their money's worth. Or they didn't, which may have contributed to the fact that they're not a sponsor anymore.
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    "Marketing Budget"

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    Quote Originally Posted by ratebeer
    I'm not sure why this bugged me enough to post...

    How was it that the US Postal Service was able to sponsor a team of cyclists? Can a federal government agency spend our tax dollars like this? Or was there some sort of donation by someone else in the name of the post office?
    dead. horse. beaten. again. and. again. and. again...

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    I haven't mailed a letter since USPS stopped sponsoring the team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrPete
    It's still a business, competing with UPS, FedEx, etc., and that takes advertising. If they got a decent ROI (which I bet they did considering Lance and all) they probably got their money's worth. Or they didn't, which may have contributed to the fact that they're not a sponsor anymore.
    Bingo.

    The Postal Service isn't non-competitive. They are mandated to operate like a business, and must at least break even.

    Here is an interesting article on the subject:
    http://washingtontimes.com/business/...1132-9081r.htm

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    On a related note, why is Disco not sponsoring after this year? I had heard that they were only coming on board for a limited time, but with some good success recently why would they not want to continue?

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    Lots of reasons. New leadership at Discovery, didn't see it as a profitable venture, decided not to renew contract. I'm sure the retirement of Lance had something to do with it, too.
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    The USPS is semi-independent federal agency (since 1970) that is self supportive through the sale of "postal products" (stamps). It is supposed to be revenue neutral and had enough "profit" to sponsor a cycling team. I think their figures showed that the sponsorship deal made them money in their competition with UPS, FedEx, DHL,...
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    Of course the government can invest in a cycling team, the government buys and sells securities all the time.

    Also, it's just marketing, the armed forces and other various government agencies can advertise (through tv commercials, magazine ads, etc.) so why can't the postal service advertise through a cycling team?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vantassell
    Of course the government can invest in a cycling team, the government buys and sells securities all the time.

    Also, it's just marketing, the armed forces and other various government agencies can advertise (through tv commercials, magazine ads, etc.) so why can't the postal service advertise through a cycling team?
    I think this costs a bit more than sponsoring a pro cycling team...



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    You beat me to it DrPete. They also sponsor a road rally team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrPete
    It's still a business
    No it isn't.
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    The horse is still dead.

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    "Unless he was racing there was no way he could match my speed."

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    we must continue to beat it in case its a zombie horse.

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    How is this a dead horse thread? Am I missing something? Were there five million threads on this already?

    Jeez, we're only at seventeen posts, people! We could do this every minute when the Botto thread was in high gear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrPete
    That looks more like a llama. . . .
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    how's this:
    "When you are chewing the bars at the business end of a 90 mile road race you really dont care what gear you have hanging from your bike so long as it works."
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrPete

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    Quote Originally Posted by ratebeer
    I'm not sure why this bugged me enough to post...

    How was it that the US Postal Service was able to sponsor a team of cyclists? Can a federal government agency spend our tax dollars like this? Or was there some sort of donation by someone else in the name of the post office?
    arghhh

    The Postal Service is not supported by tax dollars. It is a self supporting agency that generates its revenue from product sales.

    A suggestion would be to do some research prior to posting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by roadwarrior
    arghhh

    The Postal Service is not supported by tax dollars. It is a self supporting agency that generates its revenue from product sales.

    A suggestion would be to do some research prior to posting.
    correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrPete
    I think this costs a bit more than sponsoring a pro cycling team...



    is this for real?

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    Quote Originally Posted by roadwarrior
    arghhh

    The Postal Service is not supported by tax dollars. It is a self supporting agency that generates its revenue from product sales.

    A suggestion would be to do some research prior to posting.
    So does the pension come out of a post-office funded 'postal workers only' pension? Serious question, not mocking...
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    Quote Originally Posted by roadwarrior
    arghhh

    The Postal Service is not supported by tax dollars. It is a self supporting agency that generates its revenue from product sales.

    A suggestion would be to do some research prior to posting.
    But Its also allowed to operate at a loss. The "break even" thing is only in theory.

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