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Old 04-06-07, 04:35 AM   #1
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the power meter is soul crushing

at least when you are doing intervals and feel like you are going all out and look down and your watts tell you otherwise.
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Old 04-06-07, 05:09 AM   #2
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Yup... makes me wonder how many intervals I was "really" doing before...
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On the plus side you will be able to see the improvements you are making in real numbers.
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Must....resist.....urge.....
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On the plus side you will be able to see the improvements you are making in real numbers.
definitely.
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Old 04-06-07, 06:47 AM   #6
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Must....resist.....urge.....
Don't. Just give in.

You'll forget all about the initial purchase sticker shock after a month or two
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Old 04-06-07, 06:51 AM   #7
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Don't. Just give in.

You'll forget all about the initial purchase sticker shock after a month or two
I still have a season of stupid camping to pay for
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I still have a season of stupid camping to pay for
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Camping is cheap unless you're going to the Yukon or something

Pre-jacked up knee days I was big into fastpacking, and my wallet wishes I still was.
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Camping is cheap unless you're going to the Yukon or something

Pre-jacked up knee days I was big into fastpacking, and my wallet wishes I still was.
$2,080 for a seasonal campsite each year.

Believe me, if it were my decision, I wouldn't be doing it. As it is, I agreed to only do it for a couple more years.
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With ya there Guitar, I hate the camping thing. My bro in law on flipside treates it like a friggin sport - every weekend they're doing the camper, marshmallows, fishing, public showers - pass pass pass.
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Every weekend in the summer is the same.....

Friday after work - drive 60 miles to campground, hang out with friends, sit on picnic bench and eat/talk/play cards/watch them drink, walk around, visit neighbors

Saturday - hang out, talk, sit on picnic bench, eat, drink, play cards, walk around, visit neighbors

Sunday - hang out, talk, sit on picnic bench, eat, drink, play cards, walk around, visit neighbors

I will bring the bike to the campground as it's in the Berkshires in MA, so there's LOTS of climbing in the area - that's the only upside to the whole thing. Other than that.....it's like high school all over again; a bunch of drunks sitting around, talking and doing basically not much.

Not my thing. And yes, these people are realllllly into it as well. Hell, even in the "off season", we all get together with our "camp neighbors" from time to time and do stuff. All I get from friends of ours (who got my gf into it) was "I can't wait for camping season to start, can you?" She never seems to like my answer .
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With ya there Guitar, I hate the camping thing. My bro in law on flipside treates it like a friggin sport - every weekend they're doing the camper, marshmallows, fishing, public showers - pass pass pass.
That's not a sport...

Fastpacking/speed hiking on the other hand.
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Old 04-06-07, 11:42 AM   #13
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That's not a sport...

Fastpacking/speed hiking on the other hand.
Ok, apparently you've never seen some of these people drink...that's a sport in and of itself....this is the NASCAR crowd, after all....
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Ok, apparently you've never seen some of these people drink...that's a sport in and of itself....this is the NASCAR crowd, after all....
It's more of a volume of fluid than amount of alcohol thing I think. Putting away a case of Old Milwaukee Light doesn't get you any drunker than a few shots of good Scotch, but it sure hurts your guts...
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I used to work with a guy that ENJOYED camping in Ohio winters, by himself, on weekends, in a tent snow or no snow. He said he'd read books and get peace and quiet. Talk about road less traveled.
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These guys are professionals
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I still have a season of stupid camping to pay for
Just move in with Cypress, his life is like camping anyway
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The topic of this thread is priceless... I had the same thing happen to me yesterday doing hill sprints... look down and go ... D@mn it! I'm not going hard enough! Though I felt like my heart was going to rip through my chest and end up in my drive train.
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The topic of this thread is priceless... I had the same thing happen to me yesterday doing hill sprints... look down and go ... D@mn it! I'm not going hard enough!
Man, I know all about the soul crushing nature of the power meter... Today was my "A" race for the season so far. I have been planning for this even for an entire year. I completely exceeded my expectations as far as finishing time and finishing place go--and yet when I got home I was disappointed enough at my wattage numbers that it took some of the luster off of my sense of accomplishment. How stupid is that?!

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This ws the thread that got me to buy my Power Meter. It is the most humbling device a Type"A" personality can own. I get done with a "hard" ride or session and the power meter says..."YOU SUCK"! But I will humble it before it humbles me.








I think I said the same thing about my golf game...
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Uh, OK. My Power Meter doesn't crush my soul -- it makes me feel stronger when the numbers go up!
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I used to work with a guy that ENJOYED camping in Ohio winters, by himself, on weekends, in a tent snow or no snow. He said he'd read books and get peace and quiet. Talk about road less traveled.
sounds like me, although sometimes in winter there's no tent needed.....no bugs, summer in southern ohio if there's been lots of spring rain means skeeters will try to pick you up and carry you away

there's something to be said for peace and quiet after being in the city, campfire, solitude, just the woods, I like it
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so how much sticker shock is there for a powertap? $2k or thereabouts?
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this thread just had to get topped now when i cant use mine right?
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so how much sticker shock is there for a powertap? $2k or thereabouts?
~$1k for powertap sl laced in a new rear wheel + tire etc

its so true, I've noticed that I'll hit my target for an interval then look down a few second later and i'll already be down way below it, it really keeps you honest.
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Man, I know all about the soul crushing nature of the power meter... Today was my "A" race for the season so far. I have been planning for this even for an entire year. I completely exceeded my expectations as far as finishing time and finishing place go--and yet when I got home I was disappointed enough at my wattage numbers that it took some of the luster off of my sense of accomplishment. How stupid is that?!

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Pretty stupid. A big reason why I'm a cave man and still govern my training using an HRM, PE, critical distance, and speed ...
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