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    Gel plus water instead of Sports Drink

    What are the benefits/drawbacks of
    1. eating gel (hammer gel or carbBoom) and just drinking water as opposed to
    2. Sports Drink (cytomax is my current favorite)

    This is on my mind because I can save a good deal of weight by just drinking neutral water at races and ditching the bottles on my bike.

    Thoughts?

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    For #1, you can dump the bottle on your head if it gets too hot.

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    I use EFS (Electrolyte Fuel System) bars by First Endurance. They have 250 calories and 40 g of carbs in each and have a great consistency. Easy to eat...and I drink water. Peanut butter/chocolate chip.

    No stuff in the bottle other than water.

    I have also carried Evervit GT Sport Tablets to eat. The advantage of those is that on a longer ride you don't have to carry extra drink mix in a bag or something when you refill your bottles. You can eat the tablets and drink water with them and it's the same. No mess.
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    sports drinks do better in my stomach while going hard?

    that's about all I've got. Most gels are designed to have exactly what 16 oz. of sports drink would have in them, minus the water. Gels also tend to have a few extra things that probably won't hurt like caffiene (though i'd def give this method a few tries on group rides before racing with it)
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    One more advantage to the sports drink, from a proper hydration perspective, is that it tastes good, therefore makes you want to drink more.

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    Generally the fluids hit your bloodstream slightly faster than the gels do. But some of the gels have caffeine in them. All hail the wonder drug.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ri_us
    Generally the fluids hit your bloodstream slightly faster than the gels do. But some of the gels have caffeine in them. All hail the wonder drug.
    How long before Mr. Pound puts that on the banned list?

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    How long before Mr. Pound puts that on the banned list?
    It is on the list, just at a pretty absurdly high dosage
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    I literally put our 9.11 watts/kg for 12 hours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brianappleby
    What are the benefits/drawbacks of
    1. eating gel (hammer gel or carbBoom) and just drinking water as opposed to
    2. Sports Drink (cytomax is my current favorite)

    This is on my mind because I can save a good deal of weight by just drinking neutral water at races and ditching the bottles on my bike.

    Thoughts?

    B.
    without getting into the actual math of a filled 20oz bottle, blah, blah. H20 weighs 8.3282lb/gallon, divided by 128*20oz + weight of bottle all while figuring the different aero impact of said bottle. )(*&&%&^$#@$^&()*()(. -->
    carry the 1 and you've always got the choice to toss your bottles at any time you feel it would help regardless of whether or not you use sports drink or a combo.


    I think the benefits greatly outweigh the negative for me.

    I use my own tried and true mix like a lot of guys and also have a bottle of plain water. This is how I train so this is how I race. I try to keep a steady flow of fluids/gu's into my body so dealing with the chaos of relying on neutral water is a variable I like to keep from entering my plan. (plan your work, work your plan)

    I personally would rather deal with the weight of the bottles but have the fluids available. If I ever think I am at a point where I want to toss my bottles then I always have that option.
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    At my current level: overweight and new to cycling

    Both 1 and 2 are a waste of money with almost no benefits for a person like me and I bet many others too. A simple bottle of plain water is the best thing for people like me.

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    gel is yummy, but might make you want to puke if you're on the rivet.

    sports drinks are yummy, but don't give you as much energy.

    I use both. Generally a few gels in my pocket, one bottle of gatorade and one bottle of water. Drink water when I'm eating a gel, drink gatorade otherwise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheKillerPenguin

    I use both. Generally a few gels in my pocket, one bottle of gatorade and one bottle of water. Drink water when I'm eating a gel, drink gatorade otherwise.
    I was just about to post the same thing, but I've been using cytomax instead. I also like to have a cliff bar or something solid to eat within the first 1-2 hours of riding, then gels after that.

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    One last thought. It's better carrying an extra bottle than winding up cramping and off the back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by roadwarrior
    I have also carried Evervit GT Sport Tablets to eat. The advantage of those is that on a longer ride you don't have to carry extra drink mix in a bag or something when you refill your bottles. You can eat the tablets and drink water with them and it's the same. No mess.
    Man, you're better than I am. I have trouble swallowing pills when i'm standing still, I can't imagine what'd happen when riding.
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    to overweight and water only...fine, but if you are racing more than 1 hour or riding more than 50 miles you must get some electrolytes and carbs in your system. Body fat is not readily converted into fuel like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheKillerPenguin
    Man, you're better than I am. I have trouble swallowing pills when i'm standing still, I can't imagine what'd happen when riding.
    They are like candy, not pills like aspirin. They have lemon flavor, really easy to chew and swallow. If you can eat a power boar or something, this is even easier.
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