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    The no-team Team

    With the nearest club/team/whatever +100 miles away, ive come to grips with being "unatached" for many racing seasons to come. It just seems like a lot of people on BF who race are on some sort of team... I could be wrong though... Anyone else riding solo? Do people scoff at your sponsorless duds?

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    I ride unatached. Haven't noticed any scoffing, then again I am CAT5 at the moment. Not a whole point to having a team at this stage anyway.
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    I will race unattached. I train solo. I live in an obscure little town. I'm the only cyclist here that I know of. Too bad, because these roads around here are awesome.....and I get them all too myself. I have raced in a team situation before and to be honest it really doesn't make a whole lot of difference at the cat 5 and 4 levels. It was nice racing with the same guys that I trained with at the tues and thurs nite club rides(I've long since moved away). I do miss those club rides, but at the same time I really enjoy going out on my own and doing my favorite 30 mile loop.
    "I'm going to work so that it's a pure guts race at the end, and if it is, I am the only one who can win it"......a quote from my hero Steve Prefontaine

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    Unattached here also. I doesn't make much difference for me so far. I only plan on doing a few cat 4 or masters races. I don't feel like getting into the whole team tactics, blocking, leadout stuff. I just want to do my own thing and not feel responsible for attending specific races etc.

    However, that's just me ... In my previous life I was definately into the team thing.

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    I'm on a collegiate team now, but during the summer I ride and race unattached. Never really had a problem with that.

    You could always join a team that's in another town just so you have some friendly faces when you race.
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    Im an unattatched 5 as well. I was offered a position on a local team.
    As of yet, I have not joined up....I like the freedom and solitude of my riding.
    I race with a couple unattatched friends also, so we can do some cooperating.
    The only thing I would really like about the team thing, is it includes a lot of free clinics, worth like 5 upgrade points each.

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    Un-attached 5. Local teams don't recruit (me), but seem to ***** an awful lot about unattached riders not 'doing their part' by joining a team and 'supporting the (their) sport. I didn't join one this year just to see how that pans out. Currently I ride with a huge, but non-racing, club that's loaded with guys in team kit. Really, it strikes me as kinda weird now that I think of it.
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    I rode unattached all last year as a 4 and 5. It wasn't really by choice, I just didn't have the time to do a bunch of different team rides and meet enough people to choose a team. This spring I joined a team and it sure is nice to have team mates to race with and car pool to races.

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    One advantage to riding without teammates is that you don't have to share the money with them.

    I might write a book about the adventures of 1996 olympic team member, Brian McDonough. (Points Race) He was a GREAT crit rider, and we called him the "One Man Wrecking Crew". He was a pro racer who went a couple of years without teammates, and he did really well playing off the strategies of other teams.
    If you know what to watch for, you can play the opportunist's role and get away with some pretty cool tactics. But it requires that you know how team tactics work, and know how to identify them.

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    Bobby Julich rode an entire season as an unattached pro. I can't remember.... but it was either before or after his gig with Chevrolet-LA Sheriffs. Bobby maxed out his credit cards that summer to get to all the races. Got a contract later...and his career was saved. A few years later he was on the podium in the Tour de France.
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    I'm a Cat 5 and unattached. I have only raced a few races but I finished ahead of at least one team rider in every race. It feels good to know you trained and raced on your own and still kicked somebody's butt from a team. Plus, I am inspired to train when I think of all those team riders going out on group rides, doing spinning classes all winter and planning and plotting against me.
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    Im in a cycling club. I prefer that to riding alone. Its hard for me to really ride hard when alone. I like having a group to keep up with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cbaronzzi
    I'm a Cat 5 and unattached. I have only raced a few races but I finished ahead of at least one team rider in every race. It feels good to know you trained and raced on your own and still kicked somebody's butt from a team. Plus, I am inspired to train when I think of all those team riders going out on group rides, doing spinning classes all winter and planning and plotting against me.
    No offense, but a lot of team riders are at the front chasing stuff and doing work for their leaders, and will expend all their energy in the middle or late stages of the race, not worrying about the finish. It's not hard to get a good finish if you hide the whole race, but team members don't have that luxury.

    Then again, there's probably less tactics like that in the Cat 5. But don't knock the team stuff until you try it, it's a totally different way to race.

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    ive raced 10 times unattached and most of the time it sucks because i feel like I dont know anyone and thats a crappy lonely feeling. My schedule and other commitments has made it a little difficult to get out on group rides to meet the local teams but I hope by the end of the year, if not sooner, I will know enough to find one to join.

    There are some advantages of riding unattached as others have mentioned but I think as you go the benefits of a team out weight the benefits of riding solo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by riskus
    There are some advantages of riding unattached as others have mentioned but I think as you go the benefits of a team out weight the benefits of riding solo.
    It's not just "benefits", if you truly want to be a participant in the sport of bicycle racing, IMO, it's imperative that you be on a team. Who do you all think puts on all these races? It's the local teams, and it's done on our own time, often at the expense of results in the race put on by the host team, or at the expense of participating at all. Teams are how the sport survives.

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    i should have stuck with "advantages" instead of "benefits" in that last sentance. I think you know what I meant though.

    The point you bring up is crucial.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MDcatV
    It's not just "benefits", if you truly want to be a participant in the sport of bicycle racing, IMO, it's imperative that you be on a team. Who do you all think puts on all these races? It's the local teams, and it's done on our own time, often at the expense of results in the race put on by the host team, or at the expense of participating at all. Teams are how the sport survives.
    Which is why teams would be better served by doing more recruiting.
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    ^^^^
    what kind of recruiting are you expecting?

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    Quote Originally Posted by riskus
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    what kind of recruiting are you expecting?
    I ride in a non-racing club with over 1000 members. Do you think this club has been approached to support racing or see if any members want to pursue it? Not that I've seen. Despite seeing team kit on virtually every ride. So when asked why I'm not on a team (on a number of occasions last year and this one) I respond "no one ever asked". Quite honestly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CastIron
    I ride in a non-racing club with over 1000 members. Do you think this club has been approached to support racing or see if any members want to pursue it? Not that I've seen. Despite seeing team kit on virtually every ride. So when asked why I'm not on a team (on a number of occasions last year and this one) I respond "no one ever asked". Quite honestly.
    Sorry CastIron, but that sounds really juvenile.

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    Perhaps. But I'm really amused when I hear remarks like yours and then there is no action taken to correct the issue. It goes both ways.
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    What is a team supposed to approach your non racing team and ask if anyone wants to be a member? I dont understand what your expectations are for this sport. Ive seen teams approach people before but most of the time its just one guy who happens to be on team A that makes friends with someone not on a team and says "hey you should come out to a ride sometime".

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    Quote Originally Posted by CastIron
    Perhaps. But I'm really amused when I hear remarks like yours and then there is no action taken to correct the issue. It goes both ways.
    What club are you riding with?
    PM me if you are interested in meeting up for a ride sometime.
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    One of our Cat 1's finished 10th in a recent race with no other teammates, so I guess it's doable. The Ride Aid pro team made sure that the first couple spots were filled, though.
    "Unless he was racing there was no way he could match my speed."

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    So, I'm on a team, but I'm the only one on the team that rides on the road. So I have all the support a team gives for training, discounts, comraderie, and the like, but I have no support during races. Kind of fun because I can play off other teams and not have to worry about what my team wants me to do, but annoying since I'd more than likely be the leader at this point.

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