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    Tyler Hamilton suspended....again?

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    ROME, Apr 30 (CP) - According to the Italian sports paper La Gazzetta dello Sport, American Tyler Hamilton is suspended by his team Tinkoff Credit Systems and will probably not be participating in the Giro d'Italia.

    Earlier, Hamilton got a two years suspension; this season, the American made his comeback at the Italian-Russian team. Now, Hamilton would be involved in the doping case around Spanish sports doctor Eufemiano Fuentes.

    Besides Hamilton, Jörg Jaksche is not allowed to ride as well. Last week, the German was sanctioned for another ten months by the Court of Waadt, on recommendation of the CAS.

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    This is ridiculous already. Who can you believe in?

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    shocking

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    Tyler should get another Medal for keeping the innocent act going.. Talk about persevering etc...
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    Quote Originally Posted by -VELOCITY-
    This is ridiculous already. Who can you believe in?
    The chimera twin
    I feel like a soiled kleenex dropped in the gutter in the red-light district of Paris.

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    Quote Originally Posted by daytonian
    The chimera twin

    You got it buddy: the large print giveth, and the small print taketh away

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    Quote Originally Posted by garysol1
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    ROME, Apr 30 (CP) - According to the Italian sports paper La Gazzetta dello Sport, American Tyler Hamilton is suspended by his team Tinkoff Credit Systems....
    I seems like La Gazzetta is preoccupied because 2/3 of the profiles and all of the stage maps for this year's Giro still haven't been posted!

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    hard to feel sorry for a guy who continues to lie after he was cold busted .

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    Quote Originally Posted by erader
    hard to feel sorry for a guy who continues to lie after he was cold busted .

    Agreed....but don't you think he has paid his debt for his wrong doing's?

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    Team Tinkoff thinks otherwise:

    Will Hamilton start Giro? Tinkoff says yes

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    Quote Originally Posted by garysol1
    Agreed....but don't you think he has paid his debt for his wrong doing's?
    hamilton maintains he is innocent. remember pete rose?

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    Does it really matter whether he starts? It's not like he's gonna do well.

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    My understanding is that he is still going to race the Giro.

    Also - he has already paid for his crime (i.e. - he was already caught for any doping related to the OP investigation. Double Jeopardy seems like it should apply in this case.

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    Innocent or not, he did the time for the crime. Jail is full of self proclaimed "innocent" people paying their debt to society. Unless this allegation is of new doping then he should be left alone to race. I have not heard any thing about new doping but rather only the discovery of his doping method back in 2004 (for which he was banned for 2 years already). This just seems petty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VT Biker
    Double Jeopardy seems like it should apply in this case.
    Does the UCI/WADA have double jeopardy protections?
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    Quote Originally Posted by erader
    hamilton maintains he is innocent. remember pete rose?
    I think it is a travesty that Pete will never get in the hall of fame. What he did was wrong but it should not take away from his accomplishments in baseball.

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    Quote Originally Posted by garysol1
    Agreed....but don't you think he has paid his debt for his wrong doing's?

    When he says he's sorry, I will stop laughing at him.

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    I could care less if he races, its not like his performances lately matter at all. IF he races he will get ~150th place overall.. so who cares.
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    Quote Originally Posted by garysol1
    I think it is a travesty that Pete will never get in the hall of fame. What he did was wrong but it should not take away from his accomplishments in baseball.
    Yeah, I think it's a shame, especialyl when you have guys like Mark McGuire and Barry Bonds seeming like they are getting away with crap. I don't follow baseball enough to know if Bonds has beaten any records, but if he's caught up in some PED investigations then I don't think any of his "records" should stand if he has made any

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    Quote Originally Posted by bvfrompc
    When he says he's sorry, I will stop laughing at him.
    +1.

    I have heard more than one judge make the comment that acknowledging and accepting responsibility for one's actions is the first step toward rehabilitation. That makes a lot of sense to me.

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    It wouldn't surprise me that hitting the juice is so engrained in some of these riders that they get to a point where they truly believe they're doing nothing wrong.
    "Unless he was racing there was no way he could match my speed."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smoothie104
    Tyler should get another Medal for keeping the innocent act going.. Talk about persevering etc...
    Well, if they award an ESPY for best acting in public denial of doping, Landis would beat his skinny arse out for the award.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skydive69
    Well, if they award an ESPY for best acting in public denial of doping, Landis would beat his skinny arse out for the award.
    Nah, Flandis's story changed way too many times.
    "Unless he was racing there was no way he could match my speed."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snicklefritz
    Yeah, I think it's a shame, especialyl when you have guys like Mark McGuire and Barry Bonds seeming like they are getting away with crap. I don't follow baseball enough to know if Bonds has beaten any records, but if he's caught up in some PED investigations then I don't think any of his "records" should stand if he has made any
    They don't need derelicts in the hall of fame. It is insufficient to be an amazing player. I think one has to be a full package to make something as prestigious as the hall of fame. A hall of famer should set a positive example for everyone in all facets of his or her life. Rose is anything but a positive example, his playing prowess notwithstanding. Fortunately, it appears that those that hold the keys to the hall of fame agree with my position.
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    ^^^^
    kinda like ty cobb?

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