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    my poolesville race

    I really wanted to do well in this race. I wanted to win or at least get in a real break.
    Unfortunately neither happened and I finished 24th out of the 75 starters.

    There were no breaks in the race which I found very suprising after hearing how this race is usually won.
    There were 2 crashed that happened right in front of me that I managed to miss.
    The first one was kind of bad and didnt even happen on the sketchy gravel section
    everyone was worried about. I actually rode a little off the road to miss
    this one. The other crash was at the end of the gravel section and wasnt too bad.

    Another guy was going way too fast down the hill into the turn into the gravel and
    locked up his breaks and slid into the back wheel of another guy. The guy he hit had his
    back wheel explode and I got hit in the face with spokes but nobody went down.

    I was really frustrated with how everyone raced. I think people took the turn into the
    gravel too easy. It almost felt like stopping, even while in the front, each time through.
    Everytime someone went off the front everyone started yelling to let them go. I dont
    know why everyone listened. I kept boxing myself in so I could never try to go with
    anyone.

    Sometime during the race it most have gotten broken up pretty fast. On the 4th lap I
    inally turned around to find myself in the back of a group with maybe 30 riders top with
    no one else to be seen.

    After my ill fated attack I spent the last lap recovering. When the final turn came I
    idnt really have it in me to sprint and I was too far back to do anything so I just rode
    across the line for 24th.

    I should feel good about finishing with the front group in my second cat 4 race but you
    always feel like you could have done so much better when its over.

    here are the graphs for the people into that

    race:
    Duration: 1:45:58
    Work: 1335 kJ
    TSS: 197.2 (intensity factor 1.057)
    Norm Power: 264
    VI: 1.26
    Distance: 41.659 mi
    Min Max Avg
    Power: 0 1071 210 watts
    Heart rate: 127 184 165 bpm
    Cadence: 32 215 92 rpm
    Speed: 8.2 37.1 23.6 mph
    Pace 1:37 7:19 2:33 min/mi
    Hub Torque: 0 426 64 lb-in
    Crank Torque: 0 1622 204 lb-in





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    are the results posted somewhere or did you get results there?

    i stayed with the second group most of the race. seeing as it was my first time out i was happy to not be last, crash, or drop out. i feel like i learned some good stuff and am encouraged to keep at it.

    cheers,
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    i stayed and saw the results.

    Do you know anything about the people in that first crash? Were they ok?

    Where is your race report?

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    Quote Originally Posted by riskus
    i stayed and saw the results.

    Do you know anything about the people in that first crash? Were they ok?

    Where is your race report?
    the guys who i saw when we rode past looked a little dinged up but nobody looked seriously hurt.

    i've gotta head out right now, but i'll write something a little better tonight or tomorrow.
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    I know you pays your money and you takes your chances and all that crap, but come on. This is getting ridiculous.

    Coming into lap 3 of 4, Riskus and I were hangin' out in the pack, discussing the complete flops of breakaways that had gone off, and how neither of us felt like we were really up for a lasting break. My team still had 5 guys up at the front of the pack, so it was looking more and more like it was going to be one for the sprinters, i.e. me and 2 of our other strong guys. I was OK with this.

    My legs were feeling good, and after 2 laps I honestly felt completely fresh. No burn, no aching, nothing. I was feeling GOOD.

    Then, on a ****ing straightaway in the ****ing flats, someone apparently blew a tire or something, prompting some meathead to go sweeping from left to right through the entire pack, and much crashing ensues. I, of course, am right behind the crashing.

    I originally try to get by a falling rider on the right, then see that door slam shut. I look left, and there are already riders passing up the left side. I'm right in the middle, about to hit the guy who had already gone down. I hit the brakes, lock up the rear wheel, and end up skidding sideways around the crashed rider. Luckily I kept control of the front end and was able to keep a good line. I skid to a stop, upright, suffering only a minor racking by my top tube. Whew.

    I look up ahead and see the pack off in the distance. We're less than half a mile from the big choke point, i.e. the transition to the dirt road, so I'm confident that I can catch the pack. I jump on the pedals, and the bike doesn't move. WTH?

    I take a look at the rear wheel, and it's bent all to *****. I don't know if it just happened from the hardcore skidfest or if someone hit my rear wheel at some point, but sure enough my tire was smashed against the chainstays.

    Race over for DrPete.

    I got a ride back to the start/finish where I reported the meathead and his peloton-sweeping move to the officials. He wasn't in the thick of it at the finish so I don't know what difference it made, but I felt better.

    On an up note, my teammate Scott was able to grab 2nd. Good for him, but frustrating because we're about the same level of sprinting ability. We had a total of 4-5 riders in the top 20. Our elite woman racer also took 3rd thanks to a long attack that held and bested all the sprinters in the pack. 2 women went off on a huge break, though, so she took 3rd.

    I'm so frustrated and demoralized right now. I've been training hard, my fitness is totally there, I was racing a smart race, and ***** just happened. Again. Maybe this is fate getting its revenge on me for getting through the 5's completely crash-free. I don't know. But for the second time after a race my next stop was Capitol Hill Bikes, who will be rebuilding my now trashed Powertap wheel.

    2 consecutive races, 2 consecutive DNF's due to getting caught behind crashes. Not to mention, of course, the new bars and rebuilt wheel. This is pissing me off.
    "Unless he was racing there was no way he could match my speed."

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    I feel your pain, Pete, but on the bright side, be glad you can race! If you were feeling good today, look at your performance manager chart and see what your CTL/ATL scores are. Is your TSB positive? If it's not, then you may need to tweak the calibration a bit. There's a silver lining to every cloud, and on this day you know you were in good form, so you can adjust your data analysis tools to be more effective in preparing for your next race
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    seriously why did you have to go do that! Totally changed the rest of the race for me being all alone. I lost my only other friend at the crash following yours at the end of the gravel section.

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    Man, there were a TON of pissed off people after your race. The interesting thing is that I pointed that guy out to my team mate beforehand and lo and behold, he's involved in some ugly crap. I saw one guy over by the registration desk who had several EMTs working on his profusely bleeding hand; he was wearing King Pawn kit and was taken away in an ambulance.

    The 3/4 race was much less eventful. Just a few flats and mechanicals and a couple of guys who dropped their chains. The lead in to the sprint was ramping up nicely, but it felt to me like everyone faded really early and I didn't react properly despite my remaining match or two...I think I just couldn't understand why people were falling backwards so fast and I soft pedaled a bit about 50 meters out. I ended up 20th. The 4th lap was the fastest--we were strung out single file for a good part of it. My throat hurts from sucking all that dust today

    As I was on my way to leave I overheard someone muttering about someone in the 1/2/3 race who tried to take another racer out for refusing to work or something... I'll be curious to see if any reports shed light on this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtyphotons
    the guys who i saw when we rode past looked a little dinged up but nobody looked seriously hurt.

    i've gotta head out right now, but i'll write something a little better tonight or tomorrow.
    John!! I had no idea you were racing!! Awesome!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by *new*guy
    I ended up 20th.
    *clap* *clap* *clap*
    yay!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DC_Emily
    *clap* *clap* *clap*
    yay!!
    meh. at least I stayed upright

    now get back to studying!

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    so the 3/4 race ended in a bunch sprint too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by riskus
    so the 3/4 race ended in a bunch sprint too?
    Yeah. There were a few attempts, but nothing stuck. anyone doing bunny hop tomorrow?

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    how did the 123 race end?

    Im on the waiting list for the 3/4 race tomorrow. I am going to get kilt

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    Quote Originally Posted by riskus
    so the 3/4 race ended in a bunch sprint too?
    I heard it was a staring contest with no one willing to blink. Unfortunately, our team got hit like Monte Burns' ringer softball team from the Simpsons, and we only had 2 guys racing. I was unable to race due to a family situation, one team mate didnt recover from crashing and banging up his knee at Ephrata last week, another got food poisoning, and another with a family obligation that came up. Sucks, our plan as of last week was to really drive the pace from the first time through the gravel with a big surge then multiple attacks until the race cracked open. Race would have been soooo different. Oh well, maybe get 'em next time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrPete
    I know you pays your money and you takes your chances and all that crap, but come on. This is getting ridiculous.

    Coming into lap 3 of 4, Riskus and I were hangin' out in the pack, discussing the complete flops of breakaways that had gone off, and how neither of us felt like we were really up for a lasting break. My team still had 5 guys up at the front of the pack, so it was looking more and more like it was going to be one for the sprinters, i.e. me and 2 of our other strong guys. I was OK with this.

    My legs were feeling good, and after 2 laps I honestly felt completely fresh. No burn, no aching, nothing. I was feeling GOOD.

    Then, on a ****ing straightaway in the ****ing flats, someone apparently blew a tire or something, prompting some meathead to go sweeping from left to right through the entire pack, and much crashing ensues. I, of course, am right behind the crashing.

    I originally try to get by a falling rider on the right, then see that door slam shut. I look left, and there are already riders passing up the left side. I'm right in the middle, about to hit the guy who had already gone down. I hit the brakes, lock up the rear wheel, and end up skidding sideways around the crashed rider. Luckily I kept control of the front end and was able to keep a good line. I skid to a stop, upright, suffering only a minor racking by my top tube. Whew.

    I look up ahead and see the pack off in the distance. We're less than half a mile from the big choke point, i.e. the transition to the dirt road, so I'm confident that I can catch the pack. I jump on the pedals, and the bike doesn't move. WTH?

    I take a look at the rear wheel, and it's bent all to *****. I don't know if it just happened from the hardcore skidfest or if someone hit my rear wheel at some point, but sure enough my tire was smashed against the chainstays.

    Race over for DrPete.

    I got a ride back to the start/finish where I reported the meathead and his peloton-sweeping move to the officials. He wasn't in the thick of it at the finish so I don't know what difference it made, but I felt better.

    On an up note, my teammate Scott was able to grab 2nd. Good for him, but frustrating because we're about the same level of sprinting ability. We had a total of 4-5 riders in the top 20. Our elite woman racer also took 3rd thanks to a long attack that held and bested all the sprinters in the pack. 2 women went off on a huge break, though, so she took 3rd.

    I'm so frustrated and demoralized right now. I've been training hard, my fitness is totally there, I was racing a smart race, and ***** just happened. Again. Maybe this is fate getting its revenge on me for getting through the 5's completely crash-free. I don't know. But for the second time after a race my next stop was Capitol Hill Bikes, who will be rebuilding my now trashed Powertap wheel.

    2 consecutive races, 2 consecutive DNF's due to getting caught behind crashes. Not to mention, of course, the new bars and rebuilt wheel. This is pissing me off.
    Bummer Dr. Pete. As they say, that's racing. Better a trashed wheel than a trashed frame, elbow, hip, leg, ... and you still got the fulcrum 1s to take out to Bunny Hop, yeah?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MDcatV
    Bummer Dr. Pete. As they say, that's racing. Better a trashed wheel than a trashed frame, elbow, hip, leg, ... and you still got the fulcrum 1s to take out to Bunny Hop, yeah?
    Yeah, I'll be on the Fulcrum 1's, but I won't be at Bunny Hop. I'm flying out to a conference tomorrow AM and won't be back till Thursday. I'll be doing the Mt. St. Mary's University crit the following weekend, and I was thinking about going to the one in Virginia Beach or wherever on the 13th.

    It's probably better that way. I'm just in the wrong mindset tonight. I know it could be a lot worse, but it's just pissing me off that I have a limited amount of time to really focus on racing and I've had my last 2 races get crapped on by someone else's crash. I know I'm ranting, and I apologize.
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    Quote Originally Posted by riskus
    how did the 123 race end?

    Im on the waiting list for the 3/4 race tomorrow. I am going to get kilt
    1/2/3 there was one guy alone w/ a few chasers... I imagine there was a break of 8 or so that splintered. I'm not really sure tho.

    I'm sure you'll be fine for the 3/4. It was full when I went to sign up, so I signed up for the masters; at least I don't race til late!

    we should figure a way to meet up at some point... I'll PM you my cell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by *new*guy
    meh. at least I stayed upright
    yay for you! no finger break this week!

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    you wont be able to miss me. I wear a plain white jersey, have a beard, one arm tattooed all the way up and ride a blue steel frame

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrPete
    Yeah, I'll be on the Fulcrum 1's, but I won't be at Bunny Hop. I'm flying out to a conference tomorrow AM and won't be back till Thursday. I'll be doing the Mt. St. Mary's University crit the following weekend, and I was thinking about going to the one in Virginia Beach or wherever on the 13th.

    It's probably better that way. I'm just in the wrong mindset tonight. I know it could be a lot worse, but it's just pissing me off that I have a limited amount of time to really focus on racing and I've had my last 2 races get crapped on by someone else's crash. I know I'm ranting, and I apologize.
    Rant understood. Attack more, less danger in a breakaway

    I wont be at bunnyhop, I hate bunnyhop, I had no plans to do it before this weeks stuff, I'm just hoping to get on the bike tomorrow, I havent ridden since last Sunday and am getting really twitchy.

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    Why dont you like bunnyhop?

    I bet I know why and I am already kind of regretting signing up for it. I kinda wish I would have signed up for the race in newport news instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by riskus
    Why dont you like bunnyhop?

    I bet I know why and I am already kind of regretting signing up for it. I kinda wish I would have signed up for the race in newport news instead.
    Nothing wrong with it, it's just kind of a boring race. Pool table flat, 3 corners, short course, wide road. Feels like you're a dog chasing your tail, sooo many laps. It's a very well run event and a good race, just not my cup of tea.

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    yep thats exactly what i thought.

    after doing that flat 1 mile perfectly square crit two weeks ago im not looking forward to an even simpler shorter course tomorrow.

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    Even my big azz doesn't like 'em TOTALLY flat...

    But who am I kidding? I'd be there if I weren't going to be on a plane.
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