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    Zipp 404's work as advertised

    Yes indeed.

    That is all.

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    Pretty. I'm jealous.
    Reacting is mind candy; it requires no thought. Thinking is tedious.

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    I don't think they look so great. But they are faster than mortal wheels. They are condierably lighter than clincher wheels and climb better too. And this is why pricey, light, tubular, deep section carbon wheels like Zipps and Bontrager XXX Lites are popular with racers amateur and pro.

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    I almost had the shop rebuild my Powertap hub with a Zipp rim when I dropped it off today, but I feared spousal reprisal...
    "Unless he was racing there was no way he could match my speed."

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrPete
    I almost had the shop rebuild my Powertap hub with a Zipp rim when I dropped it off today, but I feared spousal reprisal...
    Flip it, er ah, I mean..

    ZIPP it!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by patentcad
    I don't think they look so great.
    Tell you what. I'll trade you for a set of AC 350's.
    Reacting is mind candy; it requires no thought. Thinking is tedious.

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    But do the dimples work as advertised?

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    Quote Originally Posted by grebletie
    But do the dimples work as advertised?
    Only when you're hitting with your driver.

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    140 watts? Is that good?
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    Great wheels, but prefer the 303s. Better on climbs and lower profle in a nasty crosswind. However, the 404s TT like they just robbed a bank. Would like to have the 343 series that combines the equivilent of 303 front with 404 rear, but would need to check into cycling rehab if I purchased another set of Zipp wheels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoarkRig
    Great wheels, but prefer the 303s. Better on climbs and lower profle in a nasty crosswind. However, the 404s TT like they just robbed a bank. Would like to have the 343 series that combines the equivilent of 303 front with 404 rear, but would need to check into cycling rehab if I purchased another set of Zipp wheels.
    During the hilly TT I did today there is a 1+ mile section about 2/3 of the way that's flat/fast. In training I was going 22-23mph. Today I was going 24-25 mph. I do think those Zipps helped. They also helped quite a bit on the nasty little grinding 15%+ grades near the top. Great all around wheels in my opinion, better than anything else I've ridden. Really the best of both worlds (aero and also light). Much less susceptible to crosswind buffeting than I anticipated given the 58mm rim section.

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    Quote Originally Posted by patentcad
    During the hilly TT I did today there is a 1+ mile section about 2/3 of the way that's flat/fast. In training I was going 22-23mph. Today I was going 24-25 mph. I do think those Zipps helped. They also helped quite a bit on the nasty little grinding 15%+ grades near the top. Great all around wheels in my opinion, better than anything else I've ridden. Really the best of both worlds (aero and also light). Much less susceptible to crosswind buffeting than I anticipated given the 58mm rim section.

    yes. ppl who are afraid of a lil crosswind prob never rode 58mms. that or their handling needs some work. it's really not hard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stea1thviper
    yes. ppl who are afraid of a lil crosswind prob never rode 58mms. that or their handling needs some work. it's really not hard.
    They are a bit dicier than regular wheels if a crosswind hit you going downhill at 30+ mph, but it's not like you're going to wind up in the weeds or anything. I had to pay more attention today with the Zipps than with my shallower profile Mavics on a long, fast 4 mile high speed descent, it was a bit wind-blown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by patentcad
    They are a bit dicier than regular wheels if a crosswind hit you going downhill at 30+ mph, but it's not like you're going to wind up in the weeds or anything. I had to pay more attention today with the Zipps than with my shallower profile Mavics on a long, fast 4 mile high speed descent, it was a bit wind-blown.
    i was recently in a race with a fair crosswind as we were descending at 44mph toe to toe with a good amount of curving. the difference was barely noticable. the only time i could see them being a problem is if the crosswind gusts were 30mph faster than the steady crosswind.

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    What are they advertised to do? Split the atom? Cure world hunger?
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    Wow you mean they roll! It's amazing when a company makes a wheel and it actually rolls...what will they think of next. Pcad please we need more threads about your wheels...it's amazing to come here every day and find that you've discovered new and interesting things about your wheels. Next when you buy a new floor pump I'm sure we can look forward to another 800 threads about how that wonderful new device operates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Diablo Rojo
    Wow you mean they roll! It's amazing when a company makes a wheel and it actually rolls...what will they think of next. Pcad please we need more threads about your wheels...it's amazing to come here every day and find that you've discovered new and interesting things about your wheels. Next when you buy a new floor pump I'm sure we can look forward to another 800 threads about how that wonderful new device operates.
    Correct.

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    I like the threads; I get to live vicariously through PC's wheels, since I can't afford a set .
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    Let's face it, I am the Ryanf of the Road Bike Racing section.

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    Quote Originally Posted by patentcad
    Let's face it, I am the Ryanf of the Road Bike Racing section.

    Minus the style

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    Quote Originally Posted by GuitarWizard
    I like the threads; I get to live vicariously through PC's wheels, since I can't afford a set .
    You live a sad, sad existence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Diablo Rojo
    You live a sad, sad existence.
    I don't think he sounds sad. You sound sad. You should cheer the F up.

    'The style'?
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    We now return you to your regularly scheduled thread:

    Has anyone ridden other deep dish carbon wheels like Bontrager XXX Lites or Reynolds and had a chance to compare them to the Zipp 404's? Didn't EDR talk about Reynolds wheels he had?

    Jeez EDR put away the friggin flame thrower. The weather's too nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by San Rensho
    What are they advertised to do? Split the atom? Cure world hunger?
    I'm pretty sure they designed them to not spontaneously shatter and kill the rider. So far, it's done it's job of not spontaneously shattering and killing the rider... so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by San Rensho
    What are they advertised to do? Split the atom? Cure world hunger?
    They're lighter and more aero and that's how they ride. That's my impression, that's the impression of everyone I know who has used them or owns them. Is this measurable? I don't know. They sure feel faster.

    This all Sour Zipp Grapes. You sad envious weenies. What a tangled web we weave.

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    I may be jealous, but I'm not sad.
    Reacting is mind candy; it requires no thought. Thinking is tedious.

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