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    Doping in the amateur peloton

    How much of this goes on? There MUST be some of this.

    Discuss.

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    I do caffeine and CHO.
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    Wouldn't surprise me one bit. I remember talking to a colleague of mine who knows a lot of the local tri guys, and he mentioned that it's apparently rampant at the upper amateur echelons as well.
    "Unless he was racing there was no way he could match my speed."

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    It happens in MT, so I assume it happens everywhere.
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    Anyone who beats me MUST be doping. Therefore, there's a helluva lot of doping going on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress
    It happens in MT, so I assume it happens everywhere.
    But will you name NAMES Cypress?

    Don't pull an Ivan on us dude.

    Come clean. Confess.

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    No names. I have been offered "help" by several people.
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    It's strange though. For guys with pro aspirations I guess it could be cost-effective, but otherwise that *****'s just expensive. It's not like you can earn a living winning P/1/2 races anyway...
    "Unless he was racing there was no way he could match my speed."

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrPete
    It's strange though. For guys with pro aspirations I guess it could be cost-effective, but otherwise that *****'s just expensive. It's not like you can earn a living winning P/1/2 races anyway...

    Exactly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrPete
    It's strange though. For guys with pro aspirations I guess it could be cost-effective, but otherwise that *****'s just expensive. It's not like you can earn a living winning P/1/2 races anyway...
    i don't know if the cost is the problem. i look around at races sometimes and see just crazy expensive equipment. power meters, zipp wheels, carbon fiber frames, etc. and that's in cat 5!

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    The last time this came up someone posted a link to a message board on the website of a supplement vendor. They sold the usual mix of GNC type bodybuilding supplements. The message board, however, had sections where people shared how and where to get steroids, HgH, and EPO, among other drugs. They even talked about proper dosing and what kinds of benefits they received. A couple of these guys were amateur bike racers and they were quite open about how they benefited. I was astonished.

    On the other hand, a local racer here who is a registered nurse, has told me that when he lived in Philadelphia the local racers would ask him all the time to lift EPO for them. Apparently it's easy to get if you work at a hospital, or it was then.

    I guess it shouldn't be surprising. The male ego wants to win and some people will do whatever it takes.

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    I was quoted $200/week and that was the "friend discount".

    Too rich for my blood. (literally)
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    Quote Originally Posted by sverrefehn
    The last time this came up someone posted a link to a message board on the website of a supplement vendor. They sold the usual mix of GNC type bodybuilding supplements. The message board, however, had sections where people shared how and where to get steroids, HgH, and EPO, among other drugs. They even talked about proper dosing and what kinds of benefits they received. A couple of these guys were amateur bike racers and they were quite open about how they benefited. I was astonished.

    On the other hand, a local racer here who is a registered nurse, has told me that when he lived in Philadelphia the local racers would ask him all the time to lift EPO for them. Apparently it's easy to get if you work at a hospital, or it was then.

    I guess it shouldn't be surprising. The male ego wants to win and some people will do whatever it takes.

    Dont hold back... post the link

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    Quote Originally Posted by sverrefehn
    The last time this came up someone posted a link to a message board on the website of a supplement vendor. They sold the usual mix of GNC type bodybuilding supplements. The message board, however, had sections where people shared how and where to get steroids, HgH, and EPO, among other drugs. They even talked about proper dosing and what kinds of benefits they received. A couple of these guys were amateur bike racers and they were quite open about how they benefited. I was astonished.

    On the other hand, a local racer here who is a registered nurse, has told me that when he lived in Philadelphia the local racers would ask him all the time to lift EPO for them. Apparently it's easy to get if you work at a hospital, or it was then.

    I guess it shouldn't be surprising. The male ego wants to win and some people will do whatever it takes.
    Sure. None of the big doping meds are controlled substances. EPO especially is pretty easy to come by.

    Most of us value our professional licensure enough to not play that game, though.
    "Unless he was racing there was no way he could match my speed."

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    I jokingly ask my girlfriend to perscribe me HgH and EPO. Just because I ask doesn't mean I'd take it.

    ...

    Unless she actually came through.
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    We may not all be doping, but we are all dopey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wfrogge
    Dont hold back... post the link
    I didn't save the link.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrPete
    Sure. None of the big doping meds are controlled substances. EPO especially is pretty easy to come by.

    Most of us value our professional licensure enough to not play that game, though.
    Smart man, but we already knew that. I believe the guy I mentioned was also smart enough to not get involved in that game. That's when your hobby becomes a dangerous obsession.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wfrogge
    Dont hold back... post the link
    Try this one: www.elitefitness.com Careful there are some sections there that are not work safe. I found that site because I was on a search for weight loss workout tips...I quickly found that there was a lot of steroid use, discussion, sales etc going on there.
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    i used to pop day-time cold/flu pills for hilly races. doubt they really helped, but they did contain banned substances.

    when do i get my suspension?

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    As race director and an official I have always wondered about this. Especially true in light of all the current scandals in the Pro Peloton. Has anyone ever seen a study on this? Surely some pharmacology PhD candidate has done some research somewhere. This article makes it sound easy http://www.iaaf.org/antidoping/news/...sId=23876.html , but I wonder how many racers actually do it. I googled around a bit and could find no definitive information.

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    Most of the banned substances aren't all that rare as said before. HGH is prescribed all the time by those wack job "life coaches" that want to help middle aged men recapture their youthfull energy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grasschopper
    Try this one: www.elitefitness.com Careful there are some sections there that are not work safe. I found that site because I was on a search for weight loss workout tips...I quickly found that there was a lot of steroid use, discussion, sales etc going on there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jrennie
    Most of the banned substances aren't all that rare as said before. HGH is prescribed all the time by those wack job "life coaches" that want to help middle aged men recapture their youthfull energy.
    have you ever seen that show '30 days', where they have someone do something for 30 days to see the results?

    one episode was about a midlifer who underwent a "anti-aging" program. it included HGH and some other stuff. he couldn't even finish the program because it killed off almost all his sperm. there was also something drastically wrong with his kidney. before he started he was tested and deemed healthy. this was all under a doctors supervision as well. scary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grasschopper
    Try this one: www.elitefitness.com Careful there are some sections there that are not work safe. I found that site because I was on a search for weight loss workout tips...I quickly found that there was a lot of steroid use, discussion, sales etc going on there.
    proof that body builders are deranged freaks.

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