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    Tom Danielson - *Dauphine Spoiler...ish?*

    Drops out of the first stage with a Stomach Problem.

    Seems like this kid is always suffering from some sort of health issue,no?...he's the Grant Hill of American Cycling.

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    the 'kid' is 29.

    when is his contract up at discovery, anyway?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FixdGearHead
    he's the Grant Hill of American Cycling.
    That's an insult to a class act like Grant Hill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CyLowe97
    That's an insult to a class act like Grant Hill.

    Class act or not, I sat down here in Orlando waiting for his departure to free up some money. Great guy, good for the community, but bad for the win-loss column.


    As far as Danielson goes, this is par for the course. Full of talent, but soft as baby powder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by botto
    the 'kid' is 29.

    when is his contract up at discovery, anyway?
    He needs to ride for Jelly Belly or some domestic squad, he's not Pro Tour caliber.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YMCA
    Full of talent
    Honestly, I haven't really seen that - yes, the dude can climb...FAST (on a good day)...but as a Pro Tour cyclist, wouldn't say he's overflowing with true talent.

    At his age (yes, I used the term "Kid" loosely) talent should include a natural leadership and the ability to see it thru to the end. Don't get me wrong, the guy is a decent cyclist, just not the level he was hyped up to be during his signing to the Disco team...but that's old news already known.

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    Give him a break, he's still learning to ride in the European peloton.

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    True...he'll catch on by the young cycling age of 32 or so...

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    Quote Originally Posted by botto
    so is andy schleck.
    I know, that's what I'm saying. You have to be impressed with Schelck's Giro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acape
    I know, that's what I'm saying. You have to be impressed with Schelck's Giro.
    He's impressed that Schleck is only 22 or 23 years old.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CyLowe97
    He's impressed that Schleck is only 22 or 23 years old.
    I thought he was only 21.

    EDIT: Botto got me there...

    Schleck rode the lights out of that Giro, and while Danielson's had a respectable Vuelta finish, it's not proportionate to the hype.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acape
    I thought he was only 21.
    Which bodes well for young Schleck that by the time he is 29 he will far outstrip the palmares of Mr. Danielson.*




    *doping scandals, etc., notwithstanding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CyLowe97
    Which bodes well for young Schleck that by the time he is 29 he will far outstrip the palmares of Mr. Danielson.*

    *doping scandals, etc., notwithstanding.
    As others on here have said, I wouldn't bet against seeing Schleck on the TdF podium in the next couple of years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acape
    Give him a break, he's still learning to ride in the European peloton.
    ROFLMAO


    Sure miss his whiny diaries on cyclingnews......"I love Lance, I am feeling more confident riding in the peleton, I love Lance" repeat.

    On the other hand, I haven't won a stage of the Vuelta and a few other wins that do qualify him as ProTour caliber rider, just not the second coming like has been written about him.

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    How pissed do you think the other Disco riders are with Danielson? I mean, this guy in interviews comes off all pissed off that Disco hired Basso and Levi, as if Tom is the heir apparant. And then, Danielson has absolutely puked in his own mouth repeatedly this season.

    I feel bad, because Danielson has done a lot for riding in Colorado (his Junior's Series is going to help develop talent in the United States). I think these "ailments" are nothing more than Tom's excuses for dropping out when he realizes he just does not have the engine to keep up in the European Pro Peleton.

    I mean, Tom has ridden the ToC and TdG, which, are both American races with a majority of the peleton being domestic US riders. Ironic he seems to be able to remain in those races.

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    i have to laugh when i think back to how many cyclists were labeled as "the next armstrong". danielson was one of them, so was hincapie, landis, etc.

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    It'd be really good for him to go back to the US peleton and actually win some races. Because that's really what he wants to do, and he's not going to do it in Europe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stallionforce
    It'd be really good for him to go back to the US peleton and actually win some races. Because that's really what he wants to do, and he's not going to do it in Europe.
    Agreed...tho he's in a tight situation in that scenario.

    Example:
    A team like Slipstream would be good for him...but Tom D would not be good for a team like Slipstream (ie, a team just a year or so out from really breaking into the Pro Tour, if all goes well)

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    Quote Originally Posted by timmhaan
    i have to laugh when i think back to how many cyclists were labeled as "the next armstrong". danielson was one of them, so was hincapie, landis, etc.
    and landis proved them right.

    btw - don't forget that the ********* was once called the 'next greg lemond'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Diablo Rojo
    He needs to ride for Jelly Belly or some domestic squad, he's not Pro Tour caliber.
    There are an awful lot of Pro Tour cyclists that have not won a stage or placed top 10 GC in a grand tour. He is definitely Pro Tour caliber, just not GT winner caliber. His role should be as a climbing domestique and going for stage wins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by botto
    and landis proved them right.
    did you leave that purposely ambiguous?

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Diablo Rojo
    He needs to ride for Jelly Belly or some domestic squad, he's not Pro Tour caliber.
    lame...

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    Quote Originally Posted by bvfrompc
    ROFLMAO


    Sure miss his whiny diaries on cyclingnews......"I love Lance, I am feeling more confident riding in the peleton, I love Lance" repeat.

    Spot on!

    btw - peloton, not peleton, guys are always messing that one up

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    there is always the next so and so. it is the way of sports. dont fault the athlete for that. later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timmhaan
    i have to laugh when i think back to how many cyclists were labeled as "the next armstrong". danielson was one of them, so was hincapie, landis, etc.
    If it were not for Floyd getting busted for 'roids...and if he made a hasty recovery with the 'ol hip, I'm sure he would've been back at the top of the game.
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