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Old 06-12-07, 06:47 AM   #1
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Tom Danielson - *Dauphine Spoiler...ish?*

Drops out of the first stage with a Stomach Problem.

Seems like this kid is always suffering from some sort of health issue,no?...he's the Grant Hill of American Cycling.
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Old 06-12-07, 06:52 AM   #2
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the 'kid' is 29.

when is his contract up at discovery, anyway?
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Old 06-12-07, 06:53 AM   #3
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he's the Grant Hill of American Cycling.
That's an insult to a class act like Grant Hill.
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Old 06-12-07, 07:34 AM   #4
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That's an insult to a class act like Grant Hill.

Class act or not, I sat down here in Orlando waiting for his departure to free up some money. Great guy, good for the community, but bad for the win-loss column.


As far as Danielson goes, this is par for the course. Full of talent, but soft as baby powder.
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Old 06-12-07, 08:01 AM   #5
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the 'kid' is 29.

when is his contract up at discovery, anyway?
He needs to ride for Jelly Belly or some domestic squad, he's not Pro Tour caliber.
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Old 06-12-07, 08:06 AM   #6
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Full of talent
Honestly, I haven't really seen that - yes, the dude can climb...FAST (on a good day)...but as a Pro Tour cyclist, wouldn't say he's overflowing with true talent.

At his age (yes, I used the term "Kid" loosely) talent should include a natural leadership and the ability to see it thru to the end. Don't get me wrong, the guy is a decent cyclist, just not the level he was hyped up to be during his signing to the Disco team...but that's old news already known.
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Give him a break, he's still learning to ride in the European peloton.
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Old 06-12-07, 08:18 AM   #8
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True...he'll catch on by the young cycling age of 32 or so...
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Old 06-12-07, 08:23 AM   #9
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so is andy schleck.
I know, that's what I'm saying. You have to be impressed with Schelck's Giro.
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I know, that's what I'm saying. You have to be impressed with Schelck's Giro.
He's impressed that Schleck is only 22 or 23 years old.
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He's impressed that Schleck is only 22 or 23 years old.
I thought he was only 21.

EDIT: Botto got me there...

Schleck rode the lights out of that Giro, and while Danielson's had a respectable Vuelta finish, it's not proportionate to the hype.
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I thought he was only 21.
Which bodes well for young Schleck that by the time he is 29 he will far outstrip the palmares of Mr. Danielson.*




*doping scandals, etc., notwithstanding.
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Old 06-12-07, 08:42 AM   #13
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Which bodes well for young Schleck that by the time he is 29 he will far outstrip the palmares of Mr. Danielson.*

*doping scandals, etc., notwithstanding.
As others on here have said, I wouldn't bet against seeing Schleck on the TdF podium in the next couple of years.
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Give him a break, he's still learning to ride in the European peloton.
ROFLMAO


Sure miss his whiny diaries on cyclingnews......"I love Lance, I am feeling more confident riding in the peleton, I love Lance" repeat.

On the other hand, I haven't won a stage of the Vuelta and a few other wins that do qualify him as ProTour caliber rider, just not the second coming like has been written about him.
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How pissed do you think the other Disco riders are with Danielson? I mean, this guy in interviews comes off all pissed off that Disco hired Basso and Levi, as if Tom is the heir apparant. And then, Danielson has absolutely puked in his own mouth repeatedly this season.

I feel bad, because Danielson has done a lot for riding in Colorado (his Junior's Series is going to help develop talent in the United States). I think these "ailments" are nothing more than Tom's excuses for dropping out when he realizes he just does not have the engine to keep up in the European Pro Peleton.

I mean, Tom has ridden the ToC and TdG, which, are both American races with a majority of the peleton being domestic US riders. Ironic he seems to be able to remain in those races.
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i have to laugh when i think back to how many cyclists were labeled as "the next armstrong". danielson was one of them, so was hincapie, landis, etc.
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It'd be really good for him to go back to the US peleton and actually win some races. Because that's really what he wants to do, and he's not going to do it in Europe.
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Old 06-12-07, 10:07 AM   #18
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It'd be really good for him to go back to the US peleton and actually win some races. Because that's really what he wants to do, and he's not going to do it in Europe.
Agreed...tho he's in a tight situation in that scenario.

Example:
A team like Slipstream would be good for him...but Tom D would not be good for a team like Slipstream (ie, a team just a year or so out from really breaking into the Pro Tour, if all goes well)
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i have to laugh when i think back to how many cyclists were labeled as "the next armstrong". danielson was one of them, so was hincapie, landis, etc.
and landis proved them right.

btw - don't forget that the ********* was once called the 'next greg lemond'.
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He needs to ride for Jelly Belly or some domestic squad, he's not Pro Tour caliber.
There are an awful lot of Pro Tour cyclists that have not won a stage or placed top 10 GC in a grand tour. He is definitely Pro Tour caliber, just not GT winner caliber. His role should be as a climbing domestique and going for stage wins.
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and landis proved them right.
did you leave that purposely ambiguous?
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He needs to ride for Jelly Belly or some domestic squad, he's not Pro Tour caliber.
lame...
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ROFLMAO


Sure miss his whiny diaries on cyclingnews......"I love Lance, I am feeling more confident riding in the peleton, I love Lance" repeat.

Spot on!

btw - peloton, not peleton, guys are always messing that one up
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there is always the next so and so. it is the way of sports. dont fault the athlete for that. later.
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i have to laugh when i think back to how many cyclists were labeled as "the next armstrong". danielson was one of them, so was hincapie, landis, etc.
If it were not for Floyd getting busted for 'roids...and if he made a hasty recovery with the 'ol hip, I'm sure he would've been back at the top of the game.
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