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Old 06-12-07, 12:02 PM   #1
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Do not Dope!

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Old 06-12-07, 12:38 PM   #2
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"I never smoked pot until after I did testosterone. It was instructed to me to use mary jane to relax my muscles after the ‘roids. Then came alcohol abuse, sex, drugs, and rock and roll."
Is this supposed to make me NOT want to dope?

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who the hell calls pot "mary jane" since 1968?
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who the hell calls pot "mary jane" since 1968?
Yeah, it's "grass" right?
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OK, I'm pretty much anti-doping, but I think the author is a bit off.

Whilst I think he's probably about right on the peer and team pressures, I do not see doping as a sign of mental illness, or any real links between the two. That's just silly.
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Old 06-12-07, 02:37 PM   #7
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Well,

I think his point is that people with mental illness who dope are being advised to take downers/opiates in order to alleviate some of the side-effects of the doping agents. My big thing with doping is that we do not know the long-term health effects of altering your basic body chemistry and/or physiological genetically determined levels. To anyone who defends doping, I have often wondered if they had a son or daughter, who was clearly talented enough to compete on a world-class level, but needed to risk their lives doping in order to remain competitive because everyone else was doping, would you support doping then?
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Yeah, it's "grass" right?
The hep beat kids are calling it 'reefer' these days.
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Old 06-12-07, 02:55 PM   #9
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The hep beat kids are calling it 'reefer' these days.
Are we all the way back to the 1930's for "reefer"? "Hep" and "beat" are SO 1950's. Does the current generation lack imagination, or do they pay homage to their forebearers?
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Bob - "My name is Bob and I'm a doper"

Group - "Hi Bob"

Bob- "We'll I started with a couple of Optygen and the occasional Sportleg cycle and before you know it I have a HGH protuding Barry Bonds forehead and am waking to a Starbucks latte and a transfusion on my recovery days".
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who the hell calls pot "mary jane" since 1968?

Only squares actually care what it is called. Real hipsters just care if they can smoke it.
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The hep beat kids are calling it 'reefer' these days.

I have MTV so I know it is called Wacky Tabacky...
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Are we all the way back to the 1930's for "reefer"? "Hep" and "beat" are SO 1950's. Does the current generation lack imagination, or do they pay homage to their forebearers?
Try getting through an Amy Winehouse song, and then get back to me.
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Surely we must all be mentally unbalanced to actually enjoy the pain and suffering that are synonymous with bicycle racing.

Who was it that said that "all professional cyclists are cycling away from something [in their pasts]?"

I think there's probably some truth to that, and I wouldn't be surprised if the incidence of mental "illness" (whatever that actually is - depression perhaps?) among professional cyclists is higher than amongst the general population.

Could this actually lead to a high level of substance abuse, whether that be alcohol, cocaine, EPO, whatever? Who knows, but I wouldn't be surprised. And that's without even considering that pressure that these guys are under to win, considering that their livelihoods depend upon it.
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I have MTV so I know it is called Wacky Tabacky...
I like when Weezer played the MTV awards and changed their lyrics to "I've got my Half-pipe" with boarders all around them...what artistic integrity.

I took a hit of reefer in 1988 and it lead to 12 years of heroin abuse and associating with unclean women. I should have listen to the TV ads and drank instead.
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I have MTV so I know it is called Wacky Tabacky...
I have the intramaweb so I know the latest term is actually 'spliff'.

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Surely we must all be mentally unbalanced to actually enjoy the pain and suffering that are synonymous with bicycle racing.

Who was it that said that "all professional cyclists are cycling away from something [in their pasts]?"

I think there's probably some truth to that, and I wouldn't be surprised if the incidence of mental "illness" (whatever that actually is - depression perhaps?) among professional cyclists is higher than amongst the general population.

Could this actually lead to a high level of substance abuse, whether that be alcohol, cocaine, EPO, whatever? Who knows, but I wouldn't be surprised. And that's without even considering that pressure that these guys are under to win, considering that their livelihoods depend upon it.
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