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Old 07-17-03, 09:14 AM   #1
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TDF results, stage 11 **spoiler**

Flecha takes Tour stage into Toulouse

JULY 17 - Juan Antoniao Flecha (iBanesto.com) made a perfectly timed attack out of a group of eight riders that had been on the attack for 100km to win the eleventh stage of the 2003 Tour de France, a short 153.5km from Narbonne to Toulouse. The peloton finished soon after Flecha and his pursuers, meaning that there has been little change in the Tour's overall standings. Lance Armstrong continues to hold a 21-second lead over Telekom's
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Old 07-17-03, 11:26 AM   #2
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Just a thought I had concerning these stages. I know to most people they consider these stages as not very important and just try to finish with the peleton. But why wouldn't a team like US postal use a day like this and make a break away??? Wouldn't it be a suprise to almost every strong rider? Could they get away? I know the time trial is coming up, but seems if lance and his team are so strong doing this wouldn't matter. Any thoughts??
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Old 07-17-03, 11:33 AM   #3
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I think the chances of USPS breaking away on a fairly flat stage would be slim to none. Since LA is (hopefully) stronger in the mountains than almost all the other riders, I think they(USPS) conserve their energy for the mountains and then give it 100% and try to gain Lance some more time between himself and the rest of the field. I'd say that's the plan they had when they put this particular team together. Just my opinion.
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Old 07-17-03, 11:40 AM   #4
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The 9 team memebers of USPS wouldn't stand a chance against the peleton (still what, 100+ riders strong) in an outright race, and with the ITT tomorrow it would use up a lot of energy that could be better used. And as mentioned USPS/LA's strength will come in the time trials and the mountains where it's easiest to open up large amounts of time on people.

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The Postie team is built to get Lance through the mountains. I'm not even sure they have a pure sprinter.

You don't win a tour by sprinting.
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Simoni didn't even finish with the peleton this stage. What the heck?

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The Postie team is built to get Lance through the mountains. I'm not even sure they have a pure sprinter.

You don't win a tour by sprinting.
breakaways are not sprinting
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breakaways are not sprinting
I don't remember saying that they were.
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Breakaway wouldn't work for the Yellow Jersey. LA and some of the Postal guys can definitely motor along on a flat stage but so can alot of guys not the least of them Ullrich. When all's said and done you haven't put time into Ullrich and you've tired yourself out before a truly critical time trial.

LA needs this time trial as he needs to put more time on Mayo. For the first time in his 4 Tours Lance has an opponent who might just be able to ride away from him on a climb. The TT is critical and can't be risked on a breakaway that has very little chance.
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I don't remember saying that they were.
It was implied since the person asked if time in the GC could be made up by trying on a breakaway, and you said that 'you dont win the tour by sprinting'. Nowone mentioned sprinting, I don't think, which is why I figured you made that connection
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Oh. I just meant that USPS was built to be strong in the mountains and their tactics reflect this. Thus they'll focus their energy in the mountains and would only breakaway if absolutly necessary. The sprinting comment only meant that they know where tours are won and lost.
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I read/heard a couple of strategies last night that are total opposites of each other and both made a lot of sense.

First is the commentary from Coach Carl (http://www.coachcarl.com), he basically said that the tour is laid outto suit somebody other than the USPS and that the tactics of the team aren't working out. The team tactics have always been to drive the field with LA in tow, to drop most of the field, then once you get to a critical part of the stage, LA takes off and drops the few stragglers and takes big chunks of time from his opponents. This hasn't happened this year as we've seen. We see USPS setting the pace, but not much else.

Then it was the pre-race commentary by Phil and Paul on OLN, they basically said that Lance hasn't looked like himself, but he also said that USPS and LA has not yet once attacked, yet LA is still in yellow. Basically saying that they are doing just enough to stay in yellow. And it's obviously working, Lance is still in yellow and hasn't had to truly work yet.

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