Advertise on Bikeforums.net



User Tag List

Results 1 to 19 of 19
  1. #1
    don d.
    Guest

    Hamilton's Fracture a Publicity Stunt?

    I knew there was a reason Arnie showed up at the TDF. It was to coach Tyler on his acting skills. At least that is what Walter Godefroot seems to imply in this article by:

    http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/?id=...l03/jul17news3

    "Riis bothered by speculation"...Vent on Walter. The Belgian team managers are all jealous of Johan's instant success.

  2. #2
    Senior Member ~LongRider~'s Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2003
    Location
    Shawnee, KS
    Posts
    497
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Man, the world is full of doubters. What a jerk-off.

  3. #3
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2003
    Posts
    1,012
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    probably not a publicity stunt but the amount of painkillers they must be giving him will be enough to effectively end his season. My doctor reckons it'll take about 4-5 months for his blood to purge the medication from his system.
    So I reckon if his seasons f***ed then he may as well go for it.
    An ounce off the wheels is worth 3 off the frame

  4. #4
    Guest
    Guest
    It's always strange how the Tour is- when someone is doing well, the immediate speculation is that someone is cheating (in this case, lying). No matter that these cyclists spend months and months training for this event...



    Who is this Riis anyway?

  5. #5
    Little Debbie Fiend Club KevinG's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2001
    Location
    Back To New Orleans Again
    Posts
    697
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Originally posted by Koffee Brown

    Who is this Riis anyway?
    He is he director of the CSC team.
    NADS #138
    Braaaaaaaaap!
    Go Medium Or Go HOME!!!!!
    Bob Roll:
    "Toour DAAAY Frantz!"

  6. #6
    Just ride. roadbuzz's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2000
    Location
    C-ville, Va
    Posts
    3,244
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    ...and 1996 tour winner!

  7. #7
    Senior Member stridercc's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2001
    Location
    WI
    Posts
    141
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Actually, I doubt that he is taking many pain killers at all. With the tour's strict doping controls Tyler can probbly take little more than an asprin.

    -Matt-
    It has begun
    (my season that is)

  8. #8
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2002
    Location
    Rhode Island
    Posts
    293
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Typical French BS. A guy I know has a French neighbor. All this guy says about Lance is that he is on a performance-enhancing drug that the tests have not been designed to detect.

    Waa Waaa Waaa! The French can whine all they want and try all this backhanded crap. But they still just won't admit they're not Napoleon's empire anymore.

  9. #9
    Senior Member Timo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2002
    Posts
    641
    Mentioned
    2 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Bjarne Riis, Messieur 60 percent His nickname in 1996. His hematocrite percentage was 60 percent but at that time that was not yet illegal. Yet it smells like EPO

  10. #10
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2003
    Location
    Canada
    Posts
    175
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Tyler's best "publicity stunt" so far this year has been winning Liege-Bastogne-Liege. He's pure class.

  11. #11
    Senior Member firebolt's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2002
    Location
    SF Bayarea
    Posts
    166
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I don't question the fact that he has the fracture. But this is probably one of the main reasons why he is still pushing on:

    "Directed by Academy Award nominee Bayley Silleck ("Cosmic Voyage") with senior producer JoAnna Baldwin Mallory and line producer Daniel Ferguson , BRAIN POWER will explore the extraordinary processes of the human brain by following world-class, professional cyclist, Tyler Hamilton as he trains and participates in the ultimate global sports event–the Tour de France–one of the world’s most grueling competitions.....Audiences will discover just how fundamental the brain is to all human enterprise and witness the formidable power of Tyler’s brain as he competes, navigates the course, works with his team, executes a strategy to win, and, finally, engenders the sheer will to finish successfully."

    A lof of things are at stake if he doesn't continue. I think (and I believe the producer of that film also thinks) that the fracture and the fact that he is not giving up will make the IMAX movie more exciting.

    http://www.bmz.net/articles/?uniq=159

    http://www.slowtwitch.com/headings/s.../industry.html
    Last edited by firebolt; 07-22-03 at 02:44 PM.

  12. #12
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2002
    Posts
    1,296
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I'm going off topic but don't some people naturally have a high blood hematocrit level? I read that adult men usually have between 42-54%, and that the level can be quite higher if a person is dehydrated.
    When it comes to hematocrit, I think each rider should have recorded levels... so when Riis, for example, has 60% before the start of a stage, and he has %50 through the off-season, its obvious he is using something.

    Originally posted by flyefisher
    Typical French BS. A guy I know has a French neighbor. All this guy says about Lance is that he is on a performance-enhancing drug that the tests have not been designed to detect.

    Waa Waaa Waaa! The French can whine all they want and try all this backhanded crap. But they still just won't admit they're not Napoleon's empire anymore.
    Because one french person thinks lance is doping, you think that all french people think the same? I hope you aren't that stupid.
    Last edited by brent_dube; 07-23-03 at 10:48 PM.

  13. #13
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2003
    Location
    Hobart, Tasmania
    Posts
    73
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I don't understand why some of you people are getting into Bjarne Riis - Tyler is his teams main man for goodness sake. Their handshake in the final 300m of Stage 16 was beautiful so I think a collective virtual sorry to Mr. Riis is in order from some people.

    Grodefoot on the other hand should be renamed Mouthfoot. Telekom invested buckets with a new look team for this Tour and seem to be feeling the pinch. They shouldn't though with probably Vino and possibly even Zabel on the final podium. Now he is backpeddling and saying he was misquoted.

    Hamilton is but one incredible example in this incredible Tour. The Tour's main doc has stated that the fracture is geniune - Hamilton is just lucky there has been no lateral movement of the clavicle.

    Poor bugger can only sleep lying on his back which however is better than after Stage 1 when he got no sleep at all.
    Car drivers don't smile.

  14. #14
    SLJ 6/8/65-5/2/07 Walter's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2001
    Location
    SE Florida, USA aka the Treasure Coast
    Posts
    5,303
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Boy did this thread get off target. As Jaimie points out Riis is Tyler's team director. He LOVES what Tyler's doing and was defending him from other people's insinuations.

    What's with the anti-French stuff. No one involved in the story is French. Hamilton's American, Riis is, I believe Belgian and won the Tour riding for a German team and the person making the insinuations, Godefroot is German.

    If there were no France there'd be no Tour (doh!) and our sport/avocation/obsession would be much less than it is now. Think about it.

    I'm looking forward to that IMAX btw.
    “Life is not one damned thing after another. Life is one damned thing over and over.”
    Edna St. Vincent Millay

  15. #15
    don d.
    Guest
    Ok, just a couple of quick notes for the audience that is not familiar with the actors. The words, "Riis bothered by speculation" was a reference to the article title. Riis is Danish. Riis is Hamilton's boss. He's is ostensibly one of the good guys on stage.

    Walter Godefroot is the team manager of Telekom, Ullrich's old boss. Godefroot is an ex-pro who has eaten himself into something that vaguely resembles a boiled beet. He is Belgian, and a nemesis of the Belgian manager of the USPS team, Johan Bruyneel. Godefroot is relatively successful as a team manager, but not as successful as Bruyneel is and in this Tour, some would say that Riis has out coached him. Godefroot and Telekom went out and spent big bucks on Botero, Evans, Salvodelli, and Vino to win this TDF. All of Godefroots talent has fallen to the wayside save Vino and possibly Zabel, who may still win the green jersey.

    But without a doubt, Tyler, and by extension his team, CSC, have stolen the hearts of the fans and the media in this TDF, detracting from the media coverage for Walter and his boys in pink. So, he is a little embittered and doing and saying things to provoke attention. Things like saying that Tyler and Riis are faking it.

  16. #16
    bac
    bac is offline
    Senior Member bac's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2002
    Location
    Pennsylvania
    My Bikes
    Too many to list!
    Posts
    7,487
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Originally posted by don d.
    Godefroot is an ex-pro who has eaten himself into something that vaguely resembles a boiled beet.

  17. #17
    Don't Believe the Hype RiPHRaPH's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2002
    Location
    chicagoland area
    My Bikes
    1999 Steelman SR525, 2002 Lightspeed Ultimate, 1988 Trek 830, 2008 Scott Addict
    Posts
    2,585
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    so let me get this straight.

    tyler feins an injury by crashing out on the 1st stage of the tour. a race he has exceled in in the past and now is a team's main man.

    then he has this injury conjured up during the afternoon and evening, after he was asked to pee in a cup and had to take x-rays in a french hospital.

    hey, i love a conspiracy theory as much as the next guy, but....
    I have enough words to get me into trouble, but not enough to get me out of trouble.

  18. #18
    SLJ 6/8/65-5/2/07 Walter's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2001
    Location
    SE Florida, USA aka the Treasure Coast
    Posts
    5,303
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Don,

    Thanks for the nationality correction with Godefroot. At least I was right when I stated no one involved is French.

    You're right about Telekom underachieving. Zabel is a constant who will always perform but probably can't win Green anymore. A motivated Vino has saved the race for them.
    “Life is not one damned thing after another. Life is one damned thing over and over.”
    Edna St. Vincent Millay

  19. #19
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2003
    Posts
    61
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Tyler is one man who can take an extreme amount of pain, and deal with it. The fact, that he has broken his back, and fractured his collarbones, and refractured his collarbone is just hard to understand how he can endure the pain.

    I guess that goes back to individual differences that each of us have. All I can say is that he must have a high tolerance to pain. Also he has great determination, which all of the cyclists must have to be able to compete in events like the Tour de France.

    These guys kinda remind me of the ironman. I just wished that I had the genetic makeup that these guys have. I have the motivation & dedication,and a lot of determination, I just don't have the talent.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •