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Old 07-21-03, 04:50 PM   #1
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Lance broke his chainstay and still won stage 15 !!

I saw this story on Yahoo:

http://sports.yahoo.com/sc/news?slug...ters&type=lgns

Here is the paragraph that really caught my eye:

"As Armstrong got into his team car, a mechanic showed him that his bike was also in a bad way with the chain stay, which runs between the central cranks and the rear gear mechanism, broken.

If the stage had finished on a descent, the broken frame could have caused him to crash. "

I haven't seen mention of this anywhere else, though. But if he really did break his chainstay, how could he have kept riding? Wouldn't the bike more or less collapse as was riding it? Or, at the very least rob him of some of his power.

Any thoughts on this?
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Old 07-21-03, 04:52 PM   #2
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I thought it was a chain problem when he slipped on the bike just after the fall

Maybe thats why he didn't win by 2 minutes
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Old 07-21-03, 04:53 PM   #3
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Check the pics on Velonews.com - I don't see anything that looks like a broken chain stay...

Doesn't seem possible that he'd have been able to put ANY power down with a truly "broken" chain stay. Maybe dented/bent?
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Old 07-21-03, 04:57 PM   #4
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Check the pics on Velonews.com - I don't see anything that looks like a broken chain stay...

Doesn't seem possible that he'd have been able to put ANY power down with a truly "broken" chain stay. Maybe dented/bent?
That is why I'm so puzzled....I checked out he pix on Velonews and it sure didn't look broken. I don't get OLN, so I would be curious what some people have to say after watching the stage.
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I changed the title of the thread.

Some folks get really grumpy if you put results in the title because they want to watch the highlights later.
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I changed the title of the thread.

Some folks get really grumpy if you put results in the title because they want to watch the highlights later.
Oops - didn't think about that. I'll remember next time.
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The chainstay could have suffered a crack either from the crash itself or (it looked like) Mayo riding over it. Yes, I know it's CF and although CF will snap rather than bend, it will do so only at UTS. It is possible there was not enough of a crack or load to result in catastrophic failure... or in other words... it held out long enough. Additionally, it may have been that the strength in the plane of loading was not effected by that particular crack. Remember that CF is anisotropic.
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I work for a living and was hoping to watch the stage tonight on OLN. Your idiot subject line ruined that. Thank you.
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You stupid ass.

Peloton: that seems a bit harsh...it seems to me that Bezzo made a mistake that won't be made again.

I hope that you DO watch the race on OLN, as one single line will not diminish the exciting events. On my lunch break at work today, I read the entire thread started by a screaming Koffee and was so excited to go home and watch, even though I knew the outcome and about the crash.

Show a bit of patience, dude!
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Old 07-21-03, 05:32 PM   #10
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You stupid ass.
Don't hold back, tell me what you really think.

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I work for a living and was hoping to watch the stage tonight on OLN. Your idiot subject line ruined that. Thank you.

I didn't mean to ruin your enjoyment of the stage tonight, sorry about that.
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Old 07-21-03, 05:50 PM   #11
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If you don't expect to see the Tour results in the Road Bike Racing section of BF you can't be too bright. I can see whining about the other areas but not Road Bike RACING eh
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if he did'nt want to know what happened on the stage he should not have logged on.........
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Hey, I understand your pain. During the Giro people were posting spoilers- and kept doing it. What a pain it the buttt!
Honest mistake tho bezzo, I'm not mad at ya'
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If you don't expect to see the Tour results in the Road Bike Racing section of BF you can't be too bright. I can see whining about the other areas but not Road Bike RACING eh
What he said.
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I work for a living and was hoping to watch the stage tonight on OLN. Your idiot subject line ruined that. Thank you.
As you would have read earlier in the thread, the subject line had been changed and the problem had already been seen and understood by bezzo.

What on earth were you hoping to achieve by your post?

bezzo made an easy mistake then promised not to do the same again. It was over before you posted. Please settle down.
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Peloton...this is the second of your ill-tempered posts i've come across today.

I can only assume that your job- when it doesn't involve surfing the net for cycling information- is proprietor of a charm school.......
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If I don't get live coverage of the day's stage, I won't go on this site because I expect someone to make the mistake of putting a result in the title

But when it comes to the classics.... it sucks cause I'll see the race on tv a week after it occured but someone always puts the result in a thread title before I get to see it. Its annoying.
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Old 07-21-03, 08:57 PM   #18
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On stage 8 I avoided all media because I wanted to watch it that night without knowing what was going to happen.

It wasn't that hard to do.
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Old 07-21-03, 09:10 PM   #19
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So we shouldnt talk about the race for 24 hours.I've watched it 3 times and its better each time.
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No - not 24 hours. Some members may not be able to see the replay within that time. We should have a poll on each stage and only when every member has voted that they have seen the stage will we be able to talk about it.

Sure it may mean that we'll have to wait a number of years for discussion on each stage but at least no one will accidently see the results.

We also need to send letters of complaint to all newspapers telling them that they have no right to divulge the results until they have checked with their entire readership.







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What on earth were you hoping to achieve by your post?
I was hoping to kick him in the head (virtually) hard enough that he would never do it again. I was under the impression from my experience on other cycling forums, and from the scrupulous care other users had taken to not post results in the header here, that it was a generally understood practice to not post results in the subject header. My mistake, evidently.

It's funny, I work in a bike shop that caters primarily to performance road cyclists, racers and triathletes, and we have an understanding that no one talks about the results until the next day, not employees, not management and not our clientele. Up until now, no one violated that understanding.
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Oops - didn't think about that. I'll remember next time.
He had already posted the message above two posts before yours. He didn't need a 'kick in the head'.
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Fair enough. I take the kick back. As I just mentioned to your colleague, the page with the unaltered subject heading stayed in my disk cache for some time. My apologies for being disruptive.
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If one has that much of a bee up one's butt about tour spoilers, might I sugest that one not browse the road bike racing section of Bike Forums ("Tour de France headquarters")
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I can only assume that your job- when it doesn't involve surfing the net for cycling information- is proprietor of a charm school.......
OOOh....I love your wit!
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