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Old 09-03-07, 07:27 PM   #1
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A mini Pcadette

My daughter is 13, and starts 9th grade Wednesday. She has been running with the HS Cross Country team for the past couple of weeks. She ran her first race this morning for the HS XC team, a 5K road race. She clocked 24:35 over the rolling 5K road course, passing a couple of older girls, and beating the slowest girl on her team by 5+ mins. She really loves it. Can bike racing be far behind?

With any luck she'll stick to running.

I was only joking before the race when I told her that if she didn't throw up, she didn't run hard enough. She DID throw up a bit at the finish, so she didn't appear to leave anything on the course. You have to love that effort. I won't be making any light hearted suggestions like that in the future, she might take them seriously. I am very proud of her : ).

P.S. Her HS Cross Country team has finished #1, #1 and #3 in NY State out of 700+ HS Cross Country programs for athlete/scholar GPA statewide. The best thing about HS sports is what it does for the kids' heads. Hey, that sounds like what cycling does for bike weenies.

P.P.S. The fastest HS girl clocked a sub 17:45 time. Oofaaa some of those girls are fast. I'm not sure I could have run a 5K that fast as a 19 year old (At 19-121 years old I was only good for a 5:04 mile and 12 miles in about 1hr 19 mins, a 6:35 per mile pace).
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very cool. now get her a road bike!

my two year old has runner written all over her. she will be a state champ some day.

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Apparently you and your wife make good babies....

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very cool. now get her a road bike!

my two year old has runner written all over her. she will be a state champ some day.

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I love her too much to ever subject her to this sport.
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I love her too much to ever subject her to this sport.
Hey, it beats cricket. And field hockey.
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What!11!! Cricket rules..

Does the Pcadette share her dads interest in schwag.. Although its tough to buy too much in running schwag..
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My daughter is 13, and starts 9th grade Wednesday. She has been running with the HS Cross Country team for the past couple of weeks. She ran her first race this morning for the HS XC team, a 5K road race. She clocked 24:35 over the rolling 5K road course, passing a couple of older girls, and beating the slowest girl on her team by 5+ mins. She really loves it. Can bike racing be far behind?

With any luck she'll stick to running.

I was only joking before the race when I told her that if she didn't throw up, she didn't run hard enough. She DID throw up a bit at the finish, so she didn't appear to leave anything on the course. You have to love that effort. I won't be making any light hearted suggestions like that in the future, she might take them seriously. I am very proud of her : ).

P.S. Her HS Cross Country team has finished #1, #1 and #3 in NY State out of 700+ HS Cross Country programs for athlete/scholar GPA statewide. The best thing about HS sports is what it does for the kids' heads. Hey, that sounds like what cycling does for bike weenies.

P.P.S. The fastest HS girl clocked a sub 17:45 time. Oofaaa some of those girls are fast. I'm not sure I could have run a 5K that fast as a 19 year old (At 19-121 years old I was only good for a 5:04 mile and 12 miles in about 1hr 19 mins, a 6:35 per mile pace).

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Cricket rules..
Cricket has rules? I hadn't noticed. I thought it was just a gathering of nattily dressed creampuffs, wallowing in their collective pretentiousness.

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17:45 is state champ material in a lot of places on the girl's side. My time was somewhere around there as a mediocre varsity (male) runner. Generally I was 5th of 7 on our team.


Your daughter could end up being quite good, though unfortunately sometimes girls don't get consistently better over their HS career like guys. It has to do with body development, I guess.

If she does it like me, she'll run for four years, burn out, and take up cycling
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Cricket has rules? I hadn't noticed. I thought it was just a gathering of nattily dressed creampuffs, wallowing in their collective pretentiousness.
1 billion Indians disagree.
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My daughter is 13, and starts 9th grade Wednesday. She has been running with the HS Cross Country team for the past couple of weeks. She ran her first race this morning for the HS XC team, a 5K road race. She clocked 24:35 over the rolling 5K road course, passing a couple of older girls, and beating the slowest girl on her team by 5+ mins. She really loves it. Can bike racing be far behind?

With any luck she'll stick to running.

I was only joking before the race when I told her that if she didn't throw up, she didn't run hard enough. She DID throw up a bit at the finish, so she didn't appear to leave anything on the course. You have to love that effort. I won't be making any light hearted suggestions like that in the future, she might take them seriously. I am very proud of her : ).

P.S. Her HS Cross Country team has finished #1, #1 and #3 in NY State out of 700+ HS Cross Country programs for athlete/scholar GPA statewide. The best thing about HS sports is what it does for the kids' heads. Hey, that sounds like what cycling does for bike weenies.

P.P.S. The fastest HS girl clocked a sub 17:45 time. Oofaaa some of those girls are fast. I'm not sure I could have run a 5K that fast as a 19 year old (At 19-121 years old I was only good for a 5:04 mile and 12 miles in about 1hr 19 mins, a 6:35 per mile pace).
Congrats to pcadette -- let's hope she didn't inherit the wasa gene
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Please get her a bike before the first sign that her body starts to turn into a broken pile of mush

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That rarely happens, to be honest. Most high school girls don't push themselves hard enough, or long enough, for that sort of break down to occur. Very few run the mileage before the season combined with in-season intensity to result in stress fractures, etc. Only with very high mileage, poor form, poor core strength or improper/broken down shoes do you really start to see that, unless the person has a genetic predisposition that leans away from running.
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That being said, if and when I have a daughter, she will be encouraged to join her high school cross country team when she is of age. Being on the boys cross country team, and having been friends with or dated a couple of the girls on the girls team, I can say that it's a blast and an experience she'll never forget. The bus rides to and from meets, and the anxious waiting for regional, sectional and state results are truly unique among high school sports. In no other sport will you train with, and get to know, the same people, year round. My best friends, four years later, are the guys that I ran with on the tracks, trails and courses of the area.

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P.S. Her HS Cross Country team has finished #1, #1 and #3 in NY State out of 700+ HS Cross Country programs for athlete/scholar GPA statewide. The best thing about HS sports is what it does for the kids' heads. Hey, that sounds like what cycling does for bike weenies.

P.P.S. The fastest HS girl clocked a sub 17:45 time. Oofaaa some of those girls are fast. I'm not sure I could have run a 5K that fast as a 19 year old (At 19-121 years old [I was only good for a 5:04 mile and 12 miles in about 1hr 19 mins, a 6:35 per mile pace).
You could do a 5:04 mile at 121 years old? Impressive. Your age graded placings must be awesome!! How old are you now Pcad?
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Most of the good girl runners end up in triathlon. They can actually make some $$ in that and they can still run.
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Congrats to Pcadette! Sounds like a great run.

+1 to the triathlon thing. In my first and only tri, I had a 12-year-old girl swim over the top of me from 5 minutes back on her way to a top 20 overall (Madison Prado). I got 3rd in my age group, and she worked me because of the swim and the run -- I rode 4mph faster than her and still didn't catch her at the transition -- and she started 5 minutes back.

Avery Visser is another young (14 y.o.) hammerhead triathlete around here, and she won Danskin this year -- and Austin is not a soft field...

Something about young women in triathlons, the good ones can just fly.
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You could do a 5:04 mile at 121 years old? Impressive. Your age graded placings must be awesome!! How old are you now Pcad?
122.

You know what I meant. Of course if you could run a sub 6 min mile that should be good for a 100+ national championship medal. I would hope. The way it's going in master's sporting events these days, I wonder.
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very cool! you should be so proud of her!
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This is what I'm proud of: she insists she started running cross country because I 'annoyed' her into it.

Successful parenting is always gratifying.
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My daughter is 13, and starts 9th grade Wednesday. She has been running with the HS Cross Country team for the past couple of weeks. She ran her first race this morning for the HS XC team, a 5K road race. She clocked 24:35 over the rolling 5K road course, passing a couple of older girls, and beating the slowest girl on her team by 5+ mins. She really loves it. Can bike racing be far behind?

With any luck she'll stick to running.

I was only joking before the race when I told her that if she didn't throw up, she didn't run hard enough. She DID throw up a bit at the finish, so she didn't appear to leave anything on the course. You have to love that effort. I won't be making any light hearted suggestions like that in the future, she might take them seriously. I am very proud of her : ).

P.S. Her HS Cross Country team has finished #1, #1 and #3 in NY State out of 700+ HS Cross Country programs for athlete/scholar GPA statewide. The best thing about HS sports is what it does for the kids' heads. Hey, that sounds like what cycling does for bike weenies.

P.P.S. The fastest HS girl clocked a sub 17:45 time. Oofaaa some of those girls are fast. I'm not sure I could have run a 5K that fast as a 19 year old (At 19-121 years old I was only good for a 5:04 mile and 12 miles in about 1hr 19 mins, a 6:35 per mile pace).
First I thought this was a typo...I thought it should of said GRANDdaughter...Regardless that is great form and good results. You got to get her into riding so she can join the forum and comment on trashing her Dad on the NYAC runs.
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Dad can't run. There is insufficient cartilidge in my right knee. Just for laughs, I tried running 4 miles on the local flat bike path 10 years ago (my right ACL was reconstructed in 1989). I ran the distance in about 31 mins (about as fast as my daughter's run the other day, a jogging pace). My knee was fine that day, but for days 2 and 3 afterwards it was the size of a soccer ball. Oh well.

I do miss running. I try to simulate it when I spin up hills. To the pathetic degree I can spin. I'm not the worst climber here, but I ain't no KP. Spinning RULES.
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She must be damn smart, too if she's 13 and a freshman. I was 14, and I was a year younger than everyone else. I'm graduating at 17 years.
Anyways, one of my friends at the bike shop used to run cross country, and the way he explained it, it's a very tough sport. He was telling me how some kid form another school knocked one of his friends down and messed him up pretty badly, so him and a friend kicked the kid down, then got in a few kicks in with their spikes into his legs. Brutal.
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Nah get her a cross bike. Tis the season.
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