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    First ride on the carbon tubulars....

    As some of you may know, back in early August during a post wisdom tooth removal, vicodin-induced shopping spree, in addition to the Power Tap I bought, I also picked up a set of Bonty Race X Lite Carbon Aeros, 44mm rim depth and 1400 grams for the set - not super light, but not real heavy. After a few weeks of putzing around with tires and stuff, I finally settled on some Continental Competitions....I almost **** a brick when I first saw the retail price of 'em ($140), but the owner gave them to me for $84/tire. Pricey, but much more manageable.

    So, after waiting 24 hours for the glue to dry, I mounted 'em up to the 'ol 2500. Didn't notice any real weight loss versus my Niobium 30 wheels....then again, there's only about 150 gram difference between the two wheelsets, so I wasn't expecting anything huge. Definitely noticeable over the Power Tap setup though .

    I also learned today that the SRAM brakes hold their pads in the brake shoes much differently than Shimano, so I need to replace them in order to use the cork pads. I only did 16 miles today, so I decided to live life on the edge and use my normal pads.

    A few random thoughts and notations during the ride:

    First 8 minutes.....hmmmm......well, I'm not really noticing much of a difference, but at least my bike looks cooler, and I can say I have carbon tubular wheels.....

    Why do people rave about the ride quality of tubulars....my clinchers "feel" better....

    Man, rough roads kinda suck...

    Hey....whaddaya know, sprinting up hills seems a bit easier - bike seems more eager to jump forward with each pedal stroke. Maybe these weren't a total waste of money after all....

    First time above 27-28 mph....wow.....maintaining speeds up near 30 mph seems a bit easier. Might be onto something here....

    And, for the test....a fairly flat and fast section coming off a hill, that I NEVER get above 30.5 mph on unless I put in some actual effort. Same amount of effort as "usual"....almost 33 mph. Ok, maybe these do work.

    Towards the end, a 4-5% grade that I hammered up put the final nail in the coffin that I may enjoy racing with these wheels after all.

    And there you have it - Clif Notes of my 16 mile ride. To be honest, I was pretty skeptical at first, but now I decided I like 'em. Do I wish I had pdiddy's infamous Zipp 404's? Sure....14mm more rim depth, and a couple hundred grams lighter would've been great....but, I got a pretty good deal on them, and when they crack, I have someone to go to.

    Still debating on whether I like the 19mm tires though....I think I'd rather have 22mm. Oh well...next set will be Vittorias.

    Now...if I can only figure out how to inflate the ****ers, I'll be good to go.
    1999 Trek 2500 - hit by a car on it in May, 2011 and currently bikeless

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    http://www.probikekit.com/display.ph...flex%20Tubular

    Note that second to last word in that address. Veloflex. Black, Record or Carbon. Still cheaper than $84 a tire for Conti's, of all things...
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    I dislike ProBikeKit after a $200 return I sent back was "lost"....I knew I should've just kept the parts and eBay'ed 'em.

    I refuse to order from them after that.
    1999 Trek 2500 - hit by a car on it in May, 2011 and currently bikeless

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    Get some dugasts.

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    IMO, sew up tires can make or break a wheel. I went through a rash of cuts and flats a while back and decided to save some money on tires. I noticed right away I had made a mistake. No PT data to back up what I felt, but I'd explain it as riding on a tire that's too flat. Anyway, if you are ever in the same position, resist the temptation to buy cheap tires. You'll pay more in the end. While I don't have the money for Dugast, the Conti Comp, Vitt Corsa Evo cx and Veloflex Carbon's have my vote.

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    I can't wait to get a decent set of tires on my Zipps. Right now they are completely miserable to ride. The Zipp tires (made by Vitotria) I have came with flat spots in them, according to the guy that mounted them they look like "$15 tires" even though they are the worst tubulars he has ever seen.

    I'm planning on getting some 22mm continental competitions as soon as QBP gets them back in stock.
    I may be fat but I'm slow enough to make up for it.

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    They make 22mm Competitions? Dammit....the shop only had the 19mm ones. They're not horrible, but I'm wondering if the 22's would be slightly more "comfy". I still think I need to play around a bit with tire pressures (had around 145 psi).

    But....end result is, even though I wasn't night-and-day faster with the wheels, I did notice real improvements, particularly once you get up to 25-26 mph and beyond, and climbing on steeper grades. I'm curious to see what Zipp 808's feel like at 28-30 mph.
    1999 Trek 2500 - hit by a car on it in May, 2011 and currently bikeless

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duke of Kent View Post
    http://www.probikekit.com/display.ph...flex%20Tubular

    Note that second to last word in that address. Veloflex. Black, Record or Carbon. Still cheaper than $84 a tire for Conti's, of all things...
    Ughhh, you got my hopes up. I was just about to order the Veloflex Carbon 22's then I noticed they were out of stock. Back to the drawing board.....
    I may be fat but I'm slow enough to make up for it.

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    I picked up a Conti Competition with the Black Chili compound and had the base tape peel off the freakin' tire while I was mounting them. NOT happy.
    "Unless he was racing there was no way he could match my speed."

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    Heeeello, Placebo. Nice wheels, they'll make you somewhat faster, but yeah.

    Congrats, either way!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrPete View Post
    I picked up a Conti Competition with the Black Chili compound and had the base tape peel off the freakin' tire while I was mounting them. NOT happy.
    DrPete is back! ...or something. I miss his near-constant posting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UT_Dude View Post
    DrPete is back! ...or something. I miss his near-constant posting.
    Yeah, I'm no longer sitting behind a computer all day--back to the OR for me... The 1-year research fellowship was a nice vacation, though...
    "Unless he was racing there was no way he could match my speed."

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    Eh, saving lives has to be at least a little fulfilling, huh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by UT_Dude View Post
    Eh, saving lives has to be at least a little fulfilling, huh?
    You would think so.... but then after a while, you get used to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UT_Dude View Post
    Heeeello, Placebo. Nice wheels, they'll make you somewhat faster, but yeah.

    Congrats, either way!
    Ehh....not really....under speeds of say, 25 mph, I didn't notice/feel much of a difference at all....well, other than rough roads suck, and crosswinds got my attention a bit more. For the first 10 minutes or so, I was like "um, ok....so I spent a grand for nothing....awesome".....

    Actually....climbing, I did notice a difference at the lower speeds....the bike "jumped forward" a lot more with each pedal stroke than with the Bonty Race X Lite Aeros (which aren't exactly the lightest rim going). Oh, and the freewheel is pretty friggin' loud.

    But....once over 25-26 mph or so...yeah, they're nice. And anything steeper than a 4% grade or so, they seem to help too. Not a HUGE difference, but enough that I'm content for now. Still want something deeper and lighter, but these will do.
    1999 Trek 2500 - hit by a car on it in May, 2011 and currently bikeless

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    Haha, hey, whatever works! Congrats on the wheels!
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