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Old 09-11-07, 02:44 PM   #1
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Pro 2 Grip?

Anyone try these tires? Details: http://www.excelsports.com/new.asp?p...jor=1&minor=27

I was online looking for a light blue Pro2 Race tire because I like the grip of the Pro2 Lights I have, but I'd rather not get as many rear flats. For training, I usually run my seemingly bomb proof Specialized All Weather Pro tires, but they suck for fast cornering and sprint intervals compared to the Pro2 Light. My team is going to be running a weekly sprint practice, which I need to get in on, and the Specialized tires are going to be retired to the indoor trainer soon.

Seems like the Grips are a little heavier but otherwise similar composition to the Race. I wonder if this means it's more durable? Still as fast? Better just to race on or ok for fast training? Keep in mind I'm riding on DC's awful roads or I'm out in Charlottesville, VA riding solo with little cell reception and a minipump that is a piece of junk.

I'm thinking of running the Light on the front and just getting a new back tire for now, but I'm already working on my budget for racing next year and thinking about possible tire combinations then.

Thanks for the opinions and reviews.
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Old 09-11-07, 02:53 PM   #2
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Slower. It grips more, so more rolling resistance. Never tried them, but I'd stick to the regular Pr2's.
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The P2 Grip and P2 Light have less durablity/puncture resistance than the P2 Race.
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Old 09-11-07, 05:21 PM   #4
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Slower. It grips more, so more rolling resistance. Never tried them, but I'd stick to the regular Pr2's.
But you're right...

They feel heavy and stuck to the road...
Mine have been relegated to winter use only....
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Old 09-11-07, 05:37 PM   #5
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heh.

I used one in the GMSR crit. Was akin to trying to corner on ice. My experience is that Pro2's grip better, but I may have just gotten a bad tire.
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I like them in the rain (which is what they were designed for) otherwise I'd leave them be, they're not designed to last as long due to the compound used.
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Old 09-11-07, 06:42 PM   #7
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Hey aicabsolut,
I've ridden the Progrips. We used them as an occasional "secret weapon" in the ACCC last year

I tried riding regular Pro Race 2's on C'ville roads. It was a horrible mess. I got 5 punctures in two incidents over 3 rides and took them off. I think they would be ok on the nice road like Garth and once you get into Albemarle, but they were rubbish in town, with all the glass. In comparison, I had no trouble with Vittorio Zaffiros, Specialized All Condition Pros or the 20 year old Kendas on my old bike.

@killerpenguin, did you rub them down before you used them? Apparently they need to be scrubbed before use...
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Old 09-11-07, 07:09 PM   #8
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Thanks everyone. If they're going to flat as much as the Lights, then I'm skipping them. I don't ride that much in the rain.

Hey acorn_user, you riding at all the next couple days? I'm in cville till Friday. I'm looking to put in some fairly slow miles.
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Has anyone used the pro lights? Any better than the pro2s? Thinking of putting some on the race wheelset.

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Alls I know is that the Pro2Grip uses the same rubber compound as last years Michelin F1 tires, which is totally awesome, but is also totally overkill.
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Alls I know is that the Pro2Grip uses the same rubber compound as last years Michelin F1 tires, which is totally awesome, but is also totally overkill.
Didn't know that. Very cool. Only a couple minor differences: We don't go 200mph, corner at 1.5Gs+, or change tires every ~20 laps.
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Yes, very true. I wish I did though. And instead of spy scandals we have doping scandals. Actually, come to think of it, I'm not sure if those were last years, or 2005's.......... 2005 had the harder compound tire designed to last qualifying and the full race; dumbest rule EVER.
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Old 09-11-07, 08:21 PM   #13
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Read the original post Stray_Cat. I got the lights sort of by mistake (I thought my LBS carried the light blue in the P2 Race and I didn't pay close enough attention to the differences). On not too bad roads, I kept getting rear flats. Couple pinch flats. A couple mystery flats -- bike made it home ok, but the tube spontaneously developed a "snakebite" hours later sitting at home.

Only an issue on the rear. I found nothing wrong with the tire or rim. I've put my Specialized tires back on and *knock on wood* haven't flatted. I'm only 130lbs, and I kept the tires at pretty high pressure (110 I think on the Lights), so I was surprised by these flats.

I asked the question about light vs. the race before, and they are a little bit lighter because there's one less layer of puncture resistance, and maybe (?) they're a little more supple. While mine don't seem to have been punctured or sliced in the few rides I did (only one ride didn't result in a flat), they are horrible for training and probably most races, unless it's very short or a highly groomed course. I wasn't using them in DC or hitting potholes and stuff. An overpass ate them up one time.

As for performance, I think they're pretty comparable, though I haven't bought the others yet to test. I've been told they're popular among the tri crowd mostly because of the weight.
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Old 09-11-07, 08:33 PM   #14
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Hey,
the lab is keeping me extra busy. A few of us are headed down to Darden Towe at around 2pm for some cyclocross practice. There might be a road ride heading out at 2-3pm from the graveyard (I could PM you the exact time if I get it). I'm thinking about an early Friday ride, say 7am. Mornings are best for me (i.e. before 9), because my advisor is normally at home til 1030/1100
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