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    Genius move at Tour of Missouri

    okay, maybe not genius, but i thought this desrved a mention. today's stage was a time trial with mountain points awarded based on time up the last section of the tt. jeff louder, although losing 6 minutes to levi on the stage rocketed up the climb faster than almost everyone in the field netting 4th place on the stage and increasing his lead in the mountains classification. my guess is that he took the beginning of the course slow in order to conserve for the last burst up the climb. i guess this would be an obvious move to everyone, but i still think that it was a sweet call.

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    ehh

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    Wait. There are hills in Missouri?

    I have an idea. Let's throw a big UCI Stage Race and get the best cyclists in the world to come. Where should we have it? I know. Missouri.

    I don't get it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by patentcad View Post
    Wait. There are hills in Missouri?

    I have an idea. Let's throw a big UCI Stage Race and get the best cyclists in the world to come. Where should we have it? I know. Missouri.

    I don't get it.
    http://www.ozarkmountainregion.com/

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    Quote Originally Posted by patentcad View Post
    Wait. There are hills in Missouri?

    I have an idea. Let's throw a big UCI Stage Race and get the best cyclists in the world to come. Where should we have it? I know. Missouri.

    I don't get it.
    Why are you dissin on the tour of Missouri? I am glad to have another big stage race here in the US.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jfmckenna View Post
    Why are you dissin on the tour of Missouri? I am glad to have another big stage race here in the US.
    That's only because there were no DocRay posts to diss. I'll stop.

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    Brian Sheedy did the same move at the Amgen Tour of California prologue. Rode a standard road set-up. Took it easy to the bottom of Telegraph Hill. Hammered up. Won the KOM jersey. Got some extra exposure for his sponsors: Priority Health-Bissell.

    Smart move.

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    smart move by the rider. But you have to question giving KOM points in a TT, where it can be gamed like this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by patentcad View Post
    That's only because there were no DocRay posts to diss. I'll stop.
    Whatever happened to DocRay? Did I miss something?

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    All about the benjamins pcad.







    and it was a good although obvious call on Louders part.

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    This is so weird. There are huge tours all around the world that regions, countries, cities, etc... use for promotion and even though they aren't mountainous, they have been around for decades, they have a history of winners, and are successful racing events.

    Here, in the USA, we get another one week tour on the UCI schedule, a huge race that the state of Mizzu projects will provide a huge economic boost to the state, and certain "racers" on a bicycle forum can do nothing but be critical about every aspect of the event. "It doesn't have mountains, the way they're scoring the KOM doesn't work for me, it isn't as big as the tours of Georgia and California". Whaaaaa????

    Check out the Benelux Tour and the Tirreno-Adriatico just to name a few off the top of my head. Not all tours are the TDF with high mountains. Be thankful and hope for more.

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    Marcel Wust did it at Le Tour prologue back in the 90's. Basically cruised the first couple K, then sprinted some little wall. Frankie Andreu had the same idea, but Marcel was too fast. They finished way down that day, but who cares, a chance to win the polka dot is huge, especially for sprinters or non-climbers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skinny View Post
    This is so weird. There are huge tours all around the world that regions, countries, cities, etc... use for promotion and even though they aren't mountainous, they have been around for decades, they have a history of winners, and are successful racing events.

    Here, in the USA, we get another one week tour on the UCI schedule, a huge race that the state of Mizzu projects will provide a huge economic boost to the state, and certain "racers" on a bicycle forum can do nothing but be critical about every aspect of the event. "It doesn't have mountains, the way they're scoring the KOM doesn't work for me, it isn't as big as the tours of Georgia and California". Whaaaaa????

    Check out the Benelux Tour and the Tirreno-Adriatico just to name a few off the top of my head. Not all tours are the TDF with high mountains. Be thankful and hope for more.
    next time don't pull names from the top of your head. the only thing that the Eneco and Tirreno-Adriatico have in common with each other is that they're in the pro tour.

    stage 6, 2007 Tirreno-Adriatico.


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    Quote Originally Posted by patentcad View Post
    Wait. There are hills in Missouri?

    I have an idea. Let's throw a big UCI Stage Race and get the best cyclists in the world to come. Where should we have it? I know. Missouri.

    I don't get it.


    Your post shows why US Americans need more maps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gcl8a View Post

    Funny that your link is for an Arkansass page

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    Quote Originally Posted by skinny View Post
    Check out the Benelux Tour and the Tirreno-Adriatico just to name a few off the top of my head. Not all tours are the TDF with high mountains. Be thankful and hope for more.
    If, eventually, the Tour'o'California has several stages through the Sierras, then we'll see mountain stages closer to those of the Pyrenees and the Alps. And a TT through Death Valley would be PERFECT!! March weather in DV is amazing... hot, but perfect hot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wfrogge View Post
    Funny that your link is for an Arkansass page
    Hahahaha! Yes, that is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skinny View Post
    a huge race that the state of Mizzu projects will provide a huge economic boost to the state.
    +1

    We (cycling fans) sometimes get hung up on the competition and forget that most of these races AREN'T put together with competition in mind, but marketing. In this case, it's about showing off Missouri.

    Every race will have a winner that figured out how to beat everyone else. The real challenge is to get people to come out of their homes, spend some money, look around, learn something, and come back again.

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    The Tour of Missouri should get its own forum, just like the Tour de France. There's no reason this American tour should play second-fiddle to that event.


    As a Missourian, I'm hoping that hosting the tour will get more interest and positive attitudes toward cycling... we could use some.

    Regarding the lack of mountains - yes, but didn't a breakaway succeed in Stage 2? So it wasn't a real sprint finish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by botto View Post
    stage 6, 2007 Tirreno-Adriatico.
    I understand you don't have a long history in this sport so I'll 'splain it to you; don't protest; I don't mind helping the neophytes learn.

    Tirreno-Adriatico is traditionally a flat, early season warm up race for Milan-San Remo. If you look back over the history of the race, it has been won almost exclusively by classics riders and sprinters, like Freire in 2005.

    I know you've only been in the sport for a few years, which is how you could google out a hilly stage from this year and somehow think this is representative of the race's history as a whole. But I reccomend you look back over the history of the race and then you'll have not only a better awareness of this particular stage race, but also of the sport in general. Remember, gaining breadth and depth of knowledge will allow you to understand the spirit of what people say, rather than just making shallow one dimensional retorts. And Otto, always read from the top of the page, not the bottom.

    Cheers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by patentcad View Post
    Wait. There are hills in Missouri?
    There may not be monster mountains, but I don't think there is a flat road in that state. I had the idea to take a shortcut on some state highway through the ozarks on a business trip once, spent the entire trip going up and down at 20mph behind 30 year old clasic slipstream rvs. Come to think of it, it was all in Arkansas, neve mind as I ramble on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skinny View Post
    I understand you don't have a long history in this sport
    you're right. i've only followed it regularly for 17 years.

    Quote Originally Posted by skinny View Post
    so I'll 'splain it to you;
    got a lisp?

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    don't protest;
    you're the one who's in a lather.

    Quote Originally Posted by skinny View Post
    I don't mind helping the neophytes learn.
    then i suggest you go find some.

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    Tirreno-Adriatico was a traditionally flat,
    fixed.

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    early season warm up race for Milan-San Remo.
    congratulations, you finally got something half right.

    Quote Originally Posted by skinny View Post
    If you look back over the history of the race, it has been won almost exclusively by classics riders and sprinters, like Freire in 2005.
    if you actually knew much about the history of the sport, you'd realize why so many classics riders won.

    with the classics coming up they had a reason to be in form. duh.

    Quote Originally Posted by skinny View Post
    I know you've only been in the sport for a few years,
    getting repetitive in your false assumptions.

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    which is how you could google out a hilly stage from this year
    what's with the googlephobia?

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    and somehow think this is representative of the race's history as a whole.
    you lumped it with the Eneco Tour, a meaningless 3 year old tour that has sweet FA in common with TA, but I already covered that.

    Quote Originally Posted by skinny View Post
    But I reccomend you look back over the history of the race
    I have.

    Gotta love google to help refresh the memory.

    Quote Originally Posted by skinny View Post
    and then you'll have not only a better awareness of this particular stage race
    like your extensive knowledge of the Eneco Tour?

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    , but also of the sport in general.
    don't wouldn't worry your skinny little head about that.

    Quote Originally Posted by skinny View Post
    Remember, gaining breadth and depth of knowledge will allow you to understand the spirit of what people say,
    Say? Did you say something? Sorry, I don't seem to have an audio function with my BF.net interface.

    Quote Originally Posted by skinny View Post
    rather than just making shallow one dimensional retorts.
    as opposed to your bitter diatribes?

    Quote Originally Posted by skinny View Post
    And Otto, always read from the top of the page, not the bottom.
    leave the humor to me, you suck at it.

    Quote Originally Posted by skinny View Post
    Cheers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by botto View Post
    you're right. i've only followed it regularly for 17 years.got a lisp?you're the one who's in a lather.then i suggest you go find some. fixed.congratulations, you finally got something half right.if you actually knew much about the history of the sport, you'd realize why so many classics riders won.with the classics coming up they had a reason to be in form. duh.getting repetitive in your false assumptions.what's with the googlephobia? you lumped it with the Eneco Tour, a meaningless 3 year old tour that has sweet FA in common with TA, but I already covered that.I have. Gotta love google to help refresh the memory.like your extensive knowledge of the Eneco Tour? don't wouldn't worry your skinny little head about that.Say? Did you say something? Sorry, I don't seem to have an audio function with my BF.net interface.as opposed to your bitter diatribes?leave the humor to me, you suck at it.
    Very good! I'm proud of you! More than one word!!! Now put it all together in a coherent paragraph that will hold the readers attention instead of a disjointed, constantly interrupted outline of bullets and trite phrases. Oh, and try for originality this time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skinny View Post
    Very good! I'm proud of you! More than one word!!! Now put it all together in a coherent paragraph that will hold the readers attention instead of a disjointed, constantly interrupted outline of bullets and trite phrases. Oh, and try for originality this time.:beer :
    guess what?

    i don't give a flying frak.

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