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Old 09-24-07, 12:14 PM   #1
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PowerTap uh huh

Saw a CL ad and jumped on it. Yes, I ended up mounting the computer backward and broke the cadence sensor, requiring some serious mousework, but more importantly I got a good day's data.

Never thought I'd be so happy to see objective proof that I have the aerobic capacity of an asthmatic hamster.
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I call mine "The Deceiver" because my heart tells me I'm pumping out 400 watts all the time when the power meter clearly says otherwise
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I will be riding with my PowerTap for the 4th time today...

I think mine is broken...

All it does is flash "YOU SUCK"...
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Old 09-24-07, 12:37 PM   #4
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I will be riding with my PowerTap for the 4th time today...

I think mine is broken...

All it does is flash "YOU SUCK"...

Sounds like it is, indeed, broken.

Mine works though.

It has a nice, consistent "Mediocrity" displayed on it.
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Possibly getting a used SL for $600. Laced to 32-hole open pros. Owner used it for one year. Good deal?
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Con-grat-u-#*&$ing-lations!

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Old 09-24-07, 12:50 PM   #7
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Sounds like it is, indeed, broken.

Mine works though.

It has a nice, consistent "Mediocrity" displayed on it.
5.0 FTP is not mediocre.
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I had my guesstimated FTP so low that now that I'm actually using the thing, I feel like a stud. That is until the first race I did with it when I see that I still need a bigger number. I guess that's why I bought the thing.
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Possibly getting a used SL for $600. Laced to 32-hole open pros. Owner used it for one year. Good deal?
Yep. I paid $666 (really) for mine on Ebay. I then destroyed the Open Pro and had it re-laced with Sapim CXRays to an IRD Aero hoop. Stiffer, same weight, more aero...
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Con-grat-u-#*&$ing-lations!

<grumble grumble curse>

Thought you'd get a kick out of that. Despite being dogged by my VO2 numbers, I kicked out 1070 on a flat at the end of the ride. I want to hit 1300 sometime.

The best was catching a friend of mine for a beer Friday night. He said, "Hey I saw a 2007 PowerTap SL listed on Craigslist..."

I raise my finger, "I own it."

The math I used with my wife was this:

Used 2007 PowerTap SL + rear wheel: $725
I need a new wheel: $380
I'm selling my iBike/cadence/TT mount: $340

Therefore the total cost of migrating from iBike to PowerTap: $5.
$725 - ($380 + $340) = $5

That, and I watched the little one all day Thursday so she could spend the day in the city with her college friends touring the yuppie wine bars. "No honey, you deserve it."
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NEVER use math to justify the purchase of bike related stuff...
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5.0 FTP is not mediocre.
That was my old 20MP goal. Now it's like 5.1 or something.

FTP isn't that high, obviously.

When you're 65kg and primarily race crits, though, you take your beatings. Horses for courses, and I am not built for Churchill Downs.
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Thought you'd get a kick out of that. Despite being dogged by my VO2 numbers, I kicked out 1070 on a flat at the end of the ride. I want to hit 1300 sometime.

The best was catching a friend of mine for a beer Friday night. He said, "Hey I saw a 2007 PowerTap SL listed on Craigslist..."

I raise my finger, "I own it."

The math I used with my wife was this:

Used 2007 PowerTap SL + rear wheel: $725
I need a new wheel: $380
I'm selling my iBike/cadence/TT mount: $340

Therefore the total cost of migrating from iBike to PowerTap: $5.
$725 - ($380 + $340) = $5

That, and I watched the little one all day Thursday so she could spend the day in the city with her college friends touring the yuppie wine bars. "No honey, you deserve it."
Good logic. I built that psycho rear wheel I have on there now, so I've got like 3 more years before the "I need a new rear wheel" argument will ring true

Christmas will be here, and I'll be just as disappointed as everyone else with my power numbers
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Old 09-24-07, 02:42 PM   #14
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I just justified the purchase of a Plasma with math...

$850 (Plasma) - $500 (P2SL) - $400 (more speed) = $-50.

I <3 math.

On the upside, I have now spent more money on bikes in the past month than I ever thought was possible. I got *almost* all of it back from selling the old stuff, but still...
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all you gotta do is catch and stay ahead of someone who has a powertap, never actually buy one yourself
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Old 09-24-07, 04:58 PM   #16
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Saw a CL ad and jumped on it. .
Now, get Cycling Peaks WKO. It will help you take advantage of the data.
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Old 09-24-07, 05:06 PM   #17
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Now, get Cycling Peaks WKO. It will help you take advantage of the data.
Already had it. It helped illustrate that my iBike data was truly nonsense.
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Yep. I paid $666 (really) for mine on Ebay. I then destroyed the Open Pro and had it re-laced with Sapim CXRays to an IRD Aero hoop. Stiffer, same weight, more aero...

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Thanks Damocles... I'm not worried about the weight or the aeroness yet... I just need to get one and jump in to training with power.
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Thought you'd get a kick out of that. Despite being dogged by my VO2 numbers, I kicked out 1070 on a flat at the end of the ride. I want to hit 1300 sometime.

The best was catching a friend of mine for a beer Friday night. He said, "Hey I saw a 2007 PowerTap SL listed on Craigslist..."

I raise my finger, "I own it."

The math I used with my wife was this:

Used 2007 PowerTap SL + rear wheel: $725
I need a new wheel: $380
I'm selling my iBike/cadence/TT mount: $340

Therefore the total cost of migrating from iBike to PowerTap: $5.
$725 - ($380 + $340) = $5

That, and I watched the little one all day Thursday so she could spend the day in the city with her college friends touring the yuppie wine bars. "No honey, you deserve it."


Genius!
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So, is CyclingPeaks that much better than, say, the SRM software?

I can't bring myself to spend $100...
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So, is CyclingPeaks that much better than, say, the SRM software?

I can't bring myself to spend $100...
Why don't you just pull down the 30-day trial, import all your power files, and play around with it?
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Why don't you just pull down the 30-day trial, import all your power files, and play around with it?
If you do that, you're pretty much gonna buy it. At least if the other option is the PT software (I've never used the SRM version).
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http://goldencheetah.org/index.html

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Yeah, but is it any good? I'm almost certainly getting Cycling Peaks as soon as I upgrade to the new Mac OSX and Bootcamp is no longer a Beta...
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