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pcates 10-26-07 08:58 AM

Optygen Users
 
I was thinking of giving Optygen a shot and was wondering how others incorporate it into their training. Is it a case of loading and maintaining during heavy training or do you take it all year round?

UT_Dude 10-26-07 10:58 AM

Optygen is completely and utterly useless/worthless.

pcates 10-26-07 11:45 AM


Originally Posted by UT_Dude (Post 5525986)
Optygen is completely and utterly useless/worthless.

perhaps but that still doesn't answer my question.

DocRay 10-26-07 11:47 AM


Originally Posted by pcates (Post 5526296)
perhaps but that still doesn't answer my question.

yes it does. Don't bother.

Enthalpic 10-26-07 11:47 AM

We did this already

http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=264049

pcates 10-26-07 12:26 PM


Originally Posted by Enthalpic (Post 5526306)

no....we went through the whole 'its great/it's sh*t' debate with that thread....i'm asking a specific question in regards to training and usage

pcates 10-26-07 12:27 PM


Originally Posted by DocRay (Post 5526305)
yes it does. Don't bother.

call me stubborn......but i'd like to test the stuff out for myself.......then i'm going to try some dimpled wheels to see if i make it onto the fairway

stea1thviper 10-26-07 01:02 PM


Originally Posted by pcates (Post 5526570)
call me stubborn......but i'd like to test the stuff out for myself.......then i'm going to try some dimpled wheels to see if i make it onto the fairway

answered your own question

damocles1 10-26-07 01:32 PM

Makes...me...fart...

...well, more than usual....:D

UT_Dude 10-26-07 02:04 PM


Originally Posted by pcates (Post 5526570)
call me stubborn......but i'd like to test the stuff out for myself.......then i'm going to try some dimpled wheels to see if i make it onto the fairway

OK, waste your money. To actually answer your question, then, use it however you want. It won't work either way.

patentcad 10-26-07 03:33 PM

Pcad falls into the Optygen abuser category. I break the capsules and snort the contents.

obra3 10-26-07 09:16 PM

Don't bother using it during training- take 1.5 to 2x the preload dosage during the loading phase.

Do it before events.

RHOsbrink 10-28-07 01:34 PM

following the labels works pretty well... another rider I know takes the pure form- cordiceps (much cheaper) and essentially the same effect. EVEN IF IT DOESN'T WORK, the placebo effect is still efficient.

RHOsbrink 10-28-07 01:35 PM

to answer your question-- you could try the instructions (loading then maintenance) but up the dosage to 2x the loading on RACE DAY. try out out-- it worked for me, I could last a bit longer on the climbs without feeling it

patentcad 10-28-07 01:56 PM

Didn't do dick for Pcad today. That is all.

Walter 10-28-07 03:01 PM

How long before it ends up on the banned list?


:beer:

transplant 10-28-07 03:32 PM


Originally Posted by RHOsbrink (Post 5536033)
following the labels works pretty well... another rider I know takes the pure form- cordiceps (much cheaper) and essentially the same effect. EVEN IF IT DOESN'T WORK, the placebo effect is still efficient.

did you get that name right? cordiceps didn't turn up anything in my searches

pseudobrit 10-28-07 03:56 PM


Originally Posted by transplant (Post 5536413)
did you get that name right? cordiceps didn't turn up anything in my searches

It's a fungus that attacks insect species. The spores invade their brain, force them to climb to a good spot for maximum environmental spread of more spores, then it kills them and a fungus stalk sprouts out of the head of the insect.

Real gourmet stuff.

http://ocid.nacse.org/research/cordy...aus_corcur.jpg

wiki

video

late 10-28-07 03:56 PM

Hi,
I have tried cordyceps. It appears to reduce inflammation in the lungs. Not as well as my asthma inhaler, but well enough that I use it from time to time. You should be able to find it in your local
health food store.

I think anyone that likes it a lot should get their lungs checked.

patentcad 10-28-07 04:49 PM

At the end of the cycling day, sometimes you have the snot, and sometimes you do not.

That is all.

ElJamoquio 10-28-07 04:53 PM


Originally Posted by pseudobrit (Post 5536487)
It's a fungus that attacks insect species. The spores invade their brain, force them to climb to a good spot for maximum environmental spread of more spores, then it kills them and a fungus stalk sprouts out of the head of the insect.

Anything that grows inside insect brains is good enough for me.

RHOsbrink 10-28-07 07:01 PM

if you want to go down that path of what is in our diets, most of us would stop eating anything processed BUT that is just too much work!

Back to the point, its spelled CORDICEPS on optygen but is more commonly spelled as CORDYCEPS (with a Y)-- so try both searches.

pseudobrit 10-28-07 07:38 PM


Originally Posted by ElJamoquio (Post 5536661)
Anything that grows inside insect brains is good enough for me.

Just so long as it doesn't develop a taste for human tissue.


Originally Posted by patentcad (Post 5536640)
At the end of the cycling day, sometimes you have the snot, and sometimes you do not.

That is all.

And sometimes you still have your $49.95 left in the bank.

FatguyRacer 10-29-07 10:56 AM

You will do better spending the 50 bucks toward a coach.

Compressed 10-29-07 02:26 PM


Originally Posted by FatguyRacer (Post 5540485)
You will do better spending the 50 bucks toward a coach.



Better yet save it for 8 months and buy a used Powertap!


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