Cycling and bicycle discussion forums. 
   Click here to join our community Log in to access your Control Panel  


Go Back   > >

"The 33"-Road Bike Racing We set this forum up for our members to discuss their experiences in either pro or amateur racing, whether they are the big races, or even the small backyard races. Don't forget to update all the members with your own race results.

User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 11-01-07, 01:58 PM   #1
Yep
no cat contains
Thread Starter
 
Yep's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Scotland
Bikes:
Posts: 700
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
I know I can count on you...

...to help. I thought my new race rig would be an R3-SL, but then a TCR Advanced reared it's carbon headset. My old whip was a TCR C1, which I liked. I can get the frameset for $800-900 less than the R3-SL. Both are 07s and the Advanced is not ISP. Kit would be the same. Your thoughts?
Yep is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-01-07, 02:10 PM   #2
waterrockets 
Making a kilometer blurry
 
waterrockets's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Austin (near TX)
Bikes: rkwaki's porn collection
Posts: 26,130
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
At this point it's all aesthetics. Do you like the R3 $900 more?
waterrockets is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-01-07, 02:22 PM   #3
DocRay
Guest
 
Bikes:
Posts: n/a
Mentioned: Post(s)
Tagged: Thread(s)
Quoted: Post(s)
you can get an R3 for $700 less than an SL.
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-01-07, 02:49 PM   #4
Yep
no cat contains
Thread Starter
 
Yep's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Scotland
Bikes:
Posts: 700
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by DocRay View Post
you can get an R3 for $700 less than an SL.
This particular dealer would sell the SL for $400 more than the non-SL.
Yep is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-01-07, 03:07 PM   #5
merlinextraligh
pan y agua
 
merlinextraligh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Jacksonville
Bikes: Wilier Zero 7; Merlin Extralight; Co-Motion Robusta; Schwinn Paramount; Motobecane Phantom Cross; Cervelo P2; Motebecane Ti Fly 29er; Calfee Dragonfly Tandem
Posts: 29,160
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 36 Post(s)
I obviously have a bias toward the Giant. Compared to your TCR C1, the Advanced will be much stiffer in the front end, and the BB.

I'd ride them both if you can, and pick the one that feels best.

Other than that I'd favor the Giant for 1) the cash, and 2) Giant's reputation for manufacturing quality working with CF.
merlinextraligh is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-01-07, 03:55 PM   #6
Yep
no cat contains
Thread Starter
 
Yep's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Scotland
Bikes:
Posts: 700
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Oh, I almost forgot to ask you Merlin, the head tube on the 2007+ advanced frames is 1 cm longer than in the past, isn't it?
Yep is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-01-07, 04:41 PM   #7
botto 
.
 
botto's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Bikes:
Posts: 40,364
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
advanced for so many logical reasons, there's no point to list them.

cervelo if you want compliments on your bike, not what you do with it.
botto is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-01-07, 05:36 PM   #8
Yep
no cat contains
Thread Starter
 
Yep's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Scotland
Bikes:
Posts: 700
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
I'll post the Giant when it's built.
Yep is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-01-07, 06:59 PM   #9
bvfrompc
Senior Member
 
bvfrompc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Bikes:
Posts: 1,277
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Whichever one the white R3 is thats the one to get, no matter how much more it is, becuase that is one hot bike. Evrything else is just a bunch of high tech spec mumbo jumbo.

See, I knew you could count on us..........
bvfrompc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-01-07, 07:14 PM   #10
CrimsonKarter21
Mitcholo
 
CrimsonKarter21's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Oost Vlaanderen in mind, Cleveland in body
Bikes: 2010 Mitcholo w/ Sram Force/Red
Posts: 8,850
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Yep View Post
I'll post the Giant when it's built.
Thank you, Cervelo's are like underwear without a fly.
CrimsonKarter21 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-01-07, 07:27 PM   #11
pinky
Ink-Stained Wretch
 
pinky's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Holyoke, MA
Bikes:
Posts: 1,731
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I think the Giant is better from a material and geometry perspective. Cervelo seems to be balls out uber-tech but they're ideas towards sizing are a bit tweaked, and given a few incidents I wonder how much frame life they sacrifice for what they achieve.
pinky is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-02-07, 05:11 AM   #12
merlinextraligh
pan y agua
 
merlinextraligh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Jacksonville
Bikes: Wilier Zero 7; Merlin Extralight; Co-Motion Robusta; Schwinn Paramount; Motobecane Phantom Cross; Cervelo P2; Motebecane Ti Fly 29er; Calfee Dragonfly Tandem
Posts: 29,160
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 36 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Yep View Post
Oh, I almost forgot to ask you Merlin, the head tube on the 2007+ advanced frames is 1 cm longer than in the past, isn't it?
It's 17cm on an M/Lframe. Not sure how that compares
with pre 2007.

I didn't have any trouble setting it up with plenty of drop if that's the concern.
merlinextraligh is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-02-07, 06:10 AM   #13
MDcatV
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Bikes:
Posts: 6,760
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by botto View Post
advanced for so many logical reasons, there's no point to list them.

cervelo if you want compliments on your bike, not what you do with it.
When's the last time logic entered into a BF discussion?

To the OP (from a Cervelo owner), save your $$ and spend it on wheels.
MDcatV is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-02-07, 06:15 AM   #14
botto 
.
 
botto's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Bikes:
Posts: 40,364
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by MDcatV View Post
When's the last time logic entered into a BF discussion?

To the OP (from a Cervelo owner), save your $$ and spend it on wheels.
here.
botto is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 07:30 AM.