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    Moving to elevation - training tips?

    I'll keep it short: moving from Kansas City to Colorado. I train with power, and plan on doing lots of SST this winter [probably on a trainer, suck]. Any particular advice/things you've noticed when moving to a significantly higher elevation? Obviously there's the initial adjustment to lack of oxygen [decreased power]. Anything else notable, or any tips, or certain types of training I should explicitly be doing?

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    Yep, I'm sure you'll be spending a lot of time on the trainer,especially during the winter months (In colorado, that's November thru April). Initially this is a good thing anyway, because you can focus on acclimating to the elevation.

    Depending on your fitness and a slew of other variables, it could take up to a month to really become used to the altitude. I'm up at 7300 feet, so our town is a bit higher than most. It took me what seemed like forever to get a nice endurance base for doing the "little" hills around here that top out at around 9300 feet.

    Do lots of time in the lower heart rate zones and mix in the occasional interval routine to see how you're progressing. Check around for riding groups also. Start with the slower end of the group, even if you typically ride with the A group. Build up and you'll adjust fine.

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    where are you moving to? I just moved to denver from san francisco.

    If you're like me:
    Your 1-min power will be relatively unaffected but you will be MUCH more tired after that 1 minute burst than you're used to.

    Your 30 min power will drop significantly. It took me about 6 weeks of training to get it back to within 5% of where it was.

    At intensities well below LT, you wont notice too much of a difference.

    The drop in humidity was as bad as the elevation for me. Stay hydrated off the bike and drink LOTS on the bike.

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    Consider dialing your aerobic training ranges down 7-10%. That's about the amount of power difference I see bouncing back and forth from sea level. Reaction to altitude varies from person to person, but generally you can expect slower recovery too. You may see a boost in your hematocrit.

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    Thanks for the replies. Hopefully I'll be able to dial in my FTP in short order, and see how long it takes to get back to where I am currently.

    I'll be moving to Longmont. I'm pretty excited about the endless stretches of road.

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    My training didn't change very much. Just slightly lower for all zones over 2 minutes.

    My racing has changed a lot. It is very easily to put yourself into a world of hurt at alittude. And once you've gone into the red zone, it feels impossile to recover. Kind of like rianappleby said, you'll burn out much easier from anaeroic efforts.
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    Race at sea level?

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    You'll be about 30min south of me, at just under 5000 ft. Every time come back to school in the fall (from the east coast, 100ft) it takes me less time to get used to it again. For the first time, expect 4-6 weeks before you feel normal.
    As mentioned before, the humidity, or lack thereof, is a huge issue as well. You're mouth will feel ridiculously dry for a while, until your body gets used to the dry air. You'll drink far more than you're used to as a result.

    Longmont is on the front range, so the weather is actually pretty good. You can ride year round here, with the right clothing. I'm from Vermont originally, so the winters here seem downright balmy
    With a pair of lobster gloves, booties, thin hat, and plenty of layers, you can ride on all but the coldest of days. Snow rarely lasts more than a day here.
    Schedule your rides for the afternoon, if you can. The temp differences between night and day are waay bigger than they are in more humid, lower altitude climates. I've ridden to class in the morning with frost on the ground only to ride home in shorts... 35˚ differences aren't too uncommon.
    For training, keep it easy for the first few weeks. You will feel the worst from days 3-10, so make sure those days are not too difficult.
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    Use a HR monitor, especially when heading towards the hills. If you red line too quickly, you won't like the lightheaded feeling and double vision. Your water intake will double compared to K.C. and be mindful of the Longmont law of requiring sleeves on t-shirts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bullseye View Post
    Thanks for the replies. Hopefully I'll be able to dial in my FTP in short order, and see how long it takes to get back to where I am currently.

    I'll be moving to Longmont. I'm pretty excited about the endless stretches of road.

    -Bullseye
    Hey Bullseye, when are you heading out? I'll be moving to Boulder from KC in January. We should hook up and ride sometime!
    ~Nick

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    Quote Originally Posted by ccrnnr9 View Post
    Hey Bullseye, when are you heading out? I'll be moving to Boulder from KC in January. We should hook up and ride sometime!
    ~Nick
    Hah, this is funny Nick, considering we're both moving from KC.

    I start my job out there on December 3rd; just doing family stuff/packing at the moment. I will be in touch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bullseye View Post
    Hah, this is funny Nick, considering we're both moving from KC.

    I start my job out there on December 3rd; just doing family stuff/packing at the moment. I will be in touch.

    -bullseye
    Sounds great. I'll be about a month behind you. I am leaving after the semester here ends for me and I have time to get some more work done and save up a bit more cash. I should be in Boulder no later than the 5th of January.
    ~Nick

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