Cycling and bicycle discussion forums. 
   Click here to join our community Log in to access your Control Panel  


Go Back   > >

"The 33"-Road Bike Racing We set this forum up for our members to discuss their experiences in either pro or amateur racing, whether they are the big races, or even the small backyard races. Don't forget to update all the members with your own race results.

User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 11-01-07, 08:41 PM   #1
Bullseye
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Bullseye's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Boulder, CO
Bikes: Cannondale systemsix, Raleigh Competition '05
Posts: 498
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Moving to elevation - training tips?

I'll keep it short: moving from Kansas City to Colorado. I train with power, and plan on doing lots of SST this winter [probably on a trainer, suck]. Any particular advice/things you've noticed when moving to a significantly higher elevation? Obviously there's the initial adjustment to lack of oxygen [decreased power]. Anything else notable, or any tips, or certain types of training I should explicitly be doing?

Thanks.

-bullseye
Bullseye is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-01-07, 09:16 PM   #2
palesaint
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Los Alamos, NM
Bikes: 2008 fetish illustre
Posts: 895
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5 Post(s)
Yep, I'm sure you'll be spending a lot of time on the trainer,especially during the winter months (In colorado, that's November thru April). Initially this is a good thing anyway, because you can focus on acclimating to the elevation.

Depending on your fitness and a slew of other variables, it could take up to a month to really become used to the altitude. I'm up at 7300 feet, so our town is a bit higher than most. It took me what seemed like forever to get a nice endurance base for doing the "little" hills around here that top out at around 9300 feet.

Do lots of time in the lower heart rate zones and mix in the occasional interval routine to see how you're progressing. Check around for riding groups also. Start with the slower end of the group, even if you typically ride with the A group. Build up and you'll adjust fine.
palesaint is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 11-01-07, 10:42 PM   #3
brianappleby
Senior Member?
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Denver
Bikes: orbea onix, Cervelo SLC, Specialzed Allez, Cervelo P3 Alu
Posts: 1,975
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
where are you moving to? I just moved to denver from san francisco.

If you're like me:
Your 1-min power will be relatively unaffected but you will be MUCH more tired after that 1 minute burst than you're used to.

Your 30 min power will drop significantly. It took me about 6 weeks of training to get it back to within 5% of where it was.

At intensities well below LT, you wont notice too much of a difference.

The drop in humidity was as bad as the elevation for me. Stay hydrated off the bike and drink LOTS on the bike.
brianappleby is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-01-07, 10:43 PM   #4
Racer Ex 
Resident Alien
 
Racer Ex's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Location, location.
Bikes:
Posts: 12,618
Mentioned: 39 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 92 Post(s)
Consider dialing your aerobic training ranges down 7-10%. That's about the amount of power difference I see bouncing back and forth from sea level. Reaction to altitude varies from person to person, but generally you can expect slower recovery too. You may see a boost in your hematocrit.
Racer Ex is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-04-07, 08:37 AM   #5
Bullseye
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Bullseye's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Boulder, CO
Bikes: Cannondale systemsix, Raleigh Competition '05
Posts: 498
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Thanks for the replies. Hopefully I'll be able to dial in my FTP in short order, and see how long it takes to get back to where I am currently.

I'll be moving to Longmont. I'm pretty excited about the endless stretches of road.

-Bullseye
Bullseye is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-04-07, 01:48 PM   #6
VosBike
Outgunned and outclassed
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: The Springs, CO
Bikes:
Posts: 998
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
My training didn't change very much. Just slightly lower for all zones over 2 minutes.

My racing has changed a lot. It is very easily to put yourself into a world of hurt at alittude. And once you've gone into the red zone, it feels impossile to recover. Kind of like rianappleby said, you'll burn out much easier from anaeroic efforts.
VosBike is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-04-07, 02:50 PM   #7
derath
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Reisterstown, MD
Bikes:
Posts: 3,204
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5 Post(s)
Race at sea level?
derath is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-05-07, 12:45 PM   #8
ZeCanon
Writin' stuff
 
ZeCanon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Boulder, CO
Bikes:
Posts: 3,784
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
You'll be about 30min south of me, at just under 5000 ft. Every time come back to school in the fall (from the east coast, 100ft) it takes me less time to get used to it again. For the first time, expect 4-6 weeks before you feel normal.
As mentioned before, the humidity, or lack thereof, is a huge issue as well. You're mouth will feel ridiculously dry for a while, until your body gets used to the dry air. You'll drink far more than you're used to as a result.

Longmont is on the front range, so the weather is actually pretty good. You can ride year round here, with the right clothing. I'm from Vermont originally, so the winters here seem downright balmy
With a pair of lobster gloves, booties, thin hat, and plenty of layers, you can ride on all but the coldest of days. Snow rarely lasts more than a day here.
Schedule your rides for the afternoon, if you can. The temp differences between night and day are waay bigger than they are in more humid, lower altitude climates. I've ridden to class in the morning with frost on the ground only to ride home in shorts... 35˚ differences aren't too uncommon.
For training, keep it easy for the first few weeks. You will feel the worst from days 3-10, so make sure those days are not too difficult.
ZeCanon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-20-07, 11:47 AM   #9
stuchuck
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Bikes:
Posts: 23
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Use a HR monitor, especially when heading towards the hills. If you red line too quickly, you won't like the lightheaded feeling and double vision. Your water intake will double compared to K.C. and be mindful of the Longmont law of requiring sleeves on t-shirts.
stuchuck is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-20-07, 02:40 PM   #10
ccrnnr9
Senior Member
 
ccrnnr9's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Midwest, USA
Bikes:
Posts: 844
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bullseye View Post
Thanks for the replies. Hopefully I'll be able to dial in my FTP in short order, and see how long it takes to get back to where I am currently.

I'll be moving to Longmont. I'm pretty excited about the endless stretches of road.

-Bullseye
Hey Bullseye, when are you heading out? I'll be moving to Boulder from KC in January. We should hook up and ride sometime!
~Nick
ccrnnr9 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-21-07, 03:24 PM   #11
Bullseye
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Bullseye's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Boulder, CO
Bikes: Cannondale systemsix, Raleigh Competition '05
Posts: 498
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by ccrnnr9 View Post
Hey Bullseye, when are you heading out? I'll be moving to Boulder from KC in January. We should hook up and ride sometime!
~Nick
Hah, this is funny Nick, considering we're both moving from KC.

I start my job out there on December 3rd; just doing family stuff/packing at the moment. I will be in touch.

-bullseye
Bullseye is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-24-07, 06:04 PM   #12
ccrnnr9
Senior Member
 
ccrnnr9's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Midwest, USA
Bikes:
Posts: 844
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bullseye View Post
Hah, this is funny Nick, considering we're both moving from KC.

I start my job out there on December 3rd; just doing family stuff/packing at the moment. I will be in touch.

-bullseye
Sounds great. I'll be about a month behind you. I am leaving after the semester here ends for me and I have time to get some more work done and save up a bit more cash. I should be in Boulder no later than the 5th of January.
~Nick
ccrnnr9 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 08:55 PM.