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Old 11-08-07, 06:36 AM   #1
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165 mile Team Time Trial.

We're considering bringing back this monster event that runs through Michigan.
We had 15 teams at the 1988 edition. That was the last time we ran it.

If you lived within a reasonable range, would you put a team together?
Any interest?

165 miles, not too hilly.

Seems to me that riders are looking for more interesting races to compete in. This one would definitely fit that bill.
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Old 11-08-07, 06:49 AM   #2
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There is (or maybe was, not 100% sure) something similar in NL.

IIRC it's a 7 man TTT over 300km.

crazy stuff.
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Old 11-08-07, 07:06 AM   #3
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7 man team, 3 minute intervals @/above 4-5 minute power, 18 minute recoveries between pulls. If you could do 40 kph you're talking 6 hrs 40 min for 264 km. 12-13 pulls each. Maybe 4-5 minute power would be too hard. Would be really neat to see how it's paced.

I'd race it if I could find 6 other guys willing to suffer for 6 1/2+ hours and train specific for the event (trading pulls at that power level would require some pretty practiced riders). It would give me an excuse to keep training really heavy. I'd want some pretty high training load for that type of distance.
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How many riders start?
Which rider counts for finish?
What time of year?
Closest to which Intl airport?
Yes, that would be cool.
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I think that a race of that length would be boring to ride, and dead boring to watch. Distance events are only interesting to me if they're head to head. Sometimes events die for a good reason
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*thinking about how painful a 40k tt is*

oh sweet jesus ......

......I'd do it.
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Old 11-08-07, 11:12 AM   #7
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Isn't the whole point of bicycle racing to inflict pain on yourself, your teammates, and your opponents?
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Would be seriously hard to get a solid team together and damn hard to ride a good pace throughout. But it has the potential to be incredible. If I lived within a few hundred miles and had a few other guys crazy enough, I'd be down.

Though I'm curious aout the same questions YMCA asked.
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How many riders start?
Which rider counts for finish?
What time of year?
Closest to which Intl airport?
Yes, that would be cool.
Speaking as a survivor, 4 man teams 3 need to finish. Top finish times are faster than you think, not a tour or century pace at all! A very cool event, you end up living from feed bag to feed bag. And NO Im not voluntering to be on a team. I can live with just the memories of this.
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I love TTTs. This one sounds cool.

Pull duration would depend a lot on how many riders, but I'd favor shorter pulls for more riders.
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I love TTTs. This one sounds cool.

Pull duration would depend a lot on how many riders, but I'd favor shorter pulls for more riders.
What usually happens, no matter how you plan and train, is one or two guys dragging the Team in the last 40mi or so. With a race this long you need to adapt on the fly as riders fade or get second wind you either protect or take advantage of them. Maby we should have a TX edition, of course it would have to be bigger
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Sounds like a cool event, but a little long. I would probably do it but I'd prefer a round number, like a 100 mile TTT.
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165 IS a round number. It's around the point of total collapse.


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I think that a race of that length would be boring to ride, and dead boring to watch. . . . Sometimes events die for a good reason
I'll take this as a no vote.
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What usually happens, no matter how you plan and train, is one or two guys dragging the Team in the last 40mi or so. With a race this long you need to adapt on the fly as riders fade or get second wind you either protect or take advantage of them. Maby we should have a TX edition, of course it would have to be bigger
Yeah, that sounds about right.

We were lucky for Tour de Gruene last Sunday, that my teammate and I were taking approximately equal pulls all the way to the finish, and arrived at the finish with no gas in the tank.
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Honest answer, I would not be interested in that, at all. Then again, I think 40k TTs in general are about as much fun as eating a bag of glass, and cant imagine doing one for 7 hrs.
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I enjoy TTing, but that is too long to be of interest. You don't have the TTT coming down to seconds. It would be coming down to half hours. Unless it is an elite of the elite event, it seems that the differences between the teams would be and could potentially be HUGE. And this is not even saying how large the teams are. Cut it in half or by two thirds, and THEN it gets interesting.
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The title of this thread alone is enough to induce vomiting.
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I'd do it, but probably wouldn't go to the effort to put a team together. How many people were on a team?
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I would be on your team, because you live so close to my next of kin you can notify them after I drop dead.
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We're considering bringing back this monster event that runs through Michigan.
We had 15 teams at the 1988 edition. That was the last time we ran it.

If you lived within a reasonable range, would you put a team together?
Any interest?

165 miles, not too hilly.

Seems to me that riders are looking for more interesting races to compete in. This one would definitely fit that bill.
Is that the one that used to start somewhere around Mt. Pleasant and end in Mackinaw City?
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Hi,

I did a 100K TTT back in 1978. That was fun. 165 miles sounds like a lot less fun. If it was more like 100 miles I could probably put a team together (though not saying that I could get them to go to Michigan).

In fact if it was 100 miles you could do it like a team sprint. One rider pulls the first 25 miles then drops off, the next pulls the next 25 miles then drops off, etc. One guy crosses the line alone at the end. Just sayin'
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Is that the one that used to start somewhere around Mt. Pleasant and end in Mackinaw City?
Bingo. Straight up US27. To the base of the Mackinaw Bridge.

It's obviously not for everyone. But c'mon. Try something new.
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I think this would be amazing but I'm not saying that I would ever be able to complete it.
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Bingo. Straight up US27. To the base of the Mackinaw Bridge.

It's obviously not for everyone. But c'mon. Try something new.
Free fudge to the winners?
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I would be on your team, because you live so close to my next of kin you can notify them after I drop dead.
Sounds like a deal. I'm sure your bike will somehow turn up missing before I get a chance to tell them.
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