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Old 11-14-07, 01:43 PM   #1
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Take your pick...

So, my conversion from my old P2SL TT bike to RacerEx's Plasma failed pretty badly (the bike just didn't fit right, and I wasn't going to be able to make it fit).

Thus, I need a new TT bike.... Sarcastic replies aside, considering both bikes will fit, both have been test ridden, and I'm fairly indifferent, what bike do you take?

'07 Felt B2 or *possibly* a DA

or....

'07/'08 Cervelo P2C

Felt *claims* to have the most aero UCI bike ever, but I have yet to see actual data backing that up... I really like the idea of the hidden brake, and while I'm gonna end up selling the part kit off of whatever bike I get and putting my SRAM on, the parts on the Felt are worth a lot more (so the frame is gonna end up being only ~$1500 vs. $1800 for the Cervelo). The P2C is tried and true.

I'm leaning towards the B2, but I wanted to see if anyone has experience with either of these bikes...

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Old 11-14-07, 01:54 PM   #2
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Why not just get the B2 frame set, if you're going to part it out anyway? Felt is my new teams bike sponsor, and I've got the itch to pull the trigger on the B2 Pro. The DA is the schit, but I can't justify that much on a TT bike, especially when the engine needs work.
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Don't you ride a Specialized? Where is your Transition lust?
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Personally, I love Cervelos though I have never ridden the P2C. Last year's model was very good looking.

However, knowing nothing about both bikes, I can tell you that I feel the Felt LOOKS better. Plus it is less expensive with better parts? I think it likely that the cervelo is more adjustable as a TT fit evolves over time, plus cervelo DOES know their aerodynamics and wind tunnel research. Still, to save cash for a sweet looking ride, I might go with the felt.
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Old 11-14-07, 04:41 PM   #5
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based unashemedly on aethetics, the p2c is much better to me. the felt has a little too much batmobile about it. plus, i don't really dig the hidden brake business.

don't worry though, you can't make the wrong choice here.
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Old 11-14-07, 05:11 PM   #6
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Don't you ride a Specialized? Where is your Transition lust?
That Tarmac went bye-bye. He's on a Scott now. Very sweet ride.

UT_Dude, for what it's worth, I'd rather look at the Felt than another Cervelo
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Old 11-14-07, 05:39 PM   #7
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The whole cervelo fad is starting to get really really old. Go for the felt
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I don't have numbers but after talking with several tri product managers the Felt was given the nod as the fastest UCI legal frame (that's from guys building UCI non-legal frames).
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Did I incite a TT Bike Arms Race on BF? That was the plan.

Better late than never.
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That Tarmac went bye-bye. He's on a Scott now. Very sweet ride.

UT_Dude, for what it's worth, I'd rather look at the Felt than another Cervelo
Yeah, Cervelo just wins World TTs, Felt tells you they have the fastest bike.
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When I saw the 'Take Your Pick' thread title I fully expected to see that old saw:

Light, Strong, Cheap.

By the way DR, the bikes don't win the TT's, the riders do.
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Old 11-14-07, 06:57 PM   #12
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When I saw the 'Take Your Pick' thread title I fully expected to see that old saw:

Light, Strong, Cheap.

By the way DR, the bikes don't win the TT's, the riders do.
don't tell the marketing team...
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Can you try both bikes and see if 1 will fit better than the other? Fit will be the only difference between the two that makes 1 faster than the other. I know it can take weeks to dial in a TT fit, but you may get a good idea in an hour or so if one of the bikes isn't going to get there. Either one looks like a great TT bike.
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Yeah, Cervelo just wins World TTs, Felt tells you they have the fastest bike.
Well, we're comparing to a P2C, not a P3. Cervelo would probably give the aero advantage between those two to the P3... so we're comparing Felt's best effort to Cervelo's 2nd best.

Anyway, assuming the marketing aero drag claims are wrong, I'm sure that over 45km, there's not 1:52 in difference between the Felt B2 and a P3 (2007 world's).

Either way, I know I'm going to be looking down at a Ritchey for many years, but on Tuesday nights, when I look over at UT_Dude during a warmup, the Felt looks more interesting to me, but I doubt I'd ever pass either of them
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Yeah, I've definitely been gone all day, crashing my Scott on a training ride. Serious boo there. I think I'm gonna spring for the Felt. For $2500 with a Dura Ace kit, FSA Chrono crankset, etc (it's an '07), it's kinda hard to pass.

Besides, I can get a slightly better position on the Felt, and I like the way it looks.
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YES! The Felt is an awesome bike, If I had $3800 for a frameset, I'd totally get the DA.
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Anyway, assuming the marketing aero drag claims are wrong, I'm sure that over 45km, there's not 1:52 in difference between the Felt B2 and a P3 (2007 world's).

little secret...there's no real difference between any of them, and Fabian would kick ass on a Denali.
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little secret...there's no real difference between any of them, and Fabian would kick ass on a Denali.
Correct.
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little secret...there's no real difference between any of them, and Fabian would kick ass on a Denali.
you don't have to tell me that. I'm happily racing on my 36h Deep Vs on my 2001 19 lb steel bike...

We did establish though, a while back, that a round-tubed bike would have cost Fabian enough time to lose the TT this year, so the Denali would be a bit of a challenge.
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