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Old 12-06-07, 09:14 AM   #1
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Damn it, Boonen.

He's dating a 16 year old.

While I will be the first to confess that I am ignorant in the laws and cultural view of such a relationship in Belgium/Europe, I have to say that as a 22 year old, dating a 16 year old is beyond comprehension. And he's what, 26?

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Quick.Step boycotts awards ceremony
Meanwhile, no one from Quick.Step attended the ceremony. The team is boycotting HLN since the newspaper published doping charges against the squad in January this year.

Boonen had further difficulties with the newspaper this week after it published a story on his new girlfriend, 16 year-old Sophie van Vliet, the daughter of former pro Leo van Vliet, now organiser of the Amstel Gold Race and Amstel Curaçao Race. The sprinter at first denied the story, then admitted it, but said that the reporter had lied to him about where the interview would appear.


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Old 12-06-07, 09:45 AM   #2
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Yeah, she doesn't pass the 1/2 your age plus 7 rule. WTF is he thinking?

But, my goodness: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2298/...bf6e3d.jpg?v=0
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Old 12-06-07, 10:33 AM   #3
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Belgium is sorta like the West Virginia of Western Europe aint it?
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Belgium is sorta like the West Virginia of Western Europe aint it?
Maybe Southern Belgium, but I assume this is Flanders and is probably more to do with the Europeans non-prudishness when it comes to sex.

You should see some of the billboards around here.
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Depends...are Boonen and Sophie cousins?
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Don't know about Belgium, but 16 is the age of consent in the UK.

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The age of consent in Belgium is 16 except towards "close" persons (18 in this case), as specified by Article 372, which reads:

"All indecent assaults on modesty committed without violence or threat, by a person or by aiding the person, of a child of either sex, aged less than sixteen, will be punished by imprisonment (of five years to ten years).

Will be punished by imprisonment of ten to fifteen years the assault on modesty committed, without violence or threat, by all ascendant or adoptant, on the person or the with the help of the person of a minor, even aged more than sixteen, but not emancipated by marriage. The same punalty will be enforced

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Depends...are Boonen and Sophie cousins?
Good question! Its ok though if she's like a 3rd cousin.

Nuttin wrong with younger women. My wife is 7 1/2 years younger than me. But she was 23 when we met.
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Awww bucknuts. I used to cheer for him.


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Don't know about Belgium, but 16 is the age of consent in the UK.
Legal != ethical.
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16 will get ya 20.
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A 26 year old Boonen has probably about the same maturity as a 16 year old girl.
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Would someone please remind the other countries in the world that they're supposed to live by the American rules?
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How would you define "ethical" in this situation?
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as usual, our resident scribe gets it.
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That puts it all in perspective.
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How would you define "ethical" in this situation?
Sixteen year-olds are well known for their excellent decision-making abilities. I'm sure they're not swayed in the least by fame and fortune.
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as usual, our resident scribe gets it.
So no one over there considers that a bit odd?

I suppose I took a rather prude look at things, considering there are many cultures around the world that marry people off at lesser ages than that.

I still think it's wierd for a fully grown man to be dating a mid-teen, though. What would their conversations be like?
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So no one over there considers that a bit odd?

I suppose I took a rather prude look at things, considering there are many cultures around the world that marry people off at lesser ages than that.

I still think it's wierd for a fully grown man to be dating a mid-teen, though. What would their conversations be like?
He's a bike racer, not a philosopher. And she's, well, she's a 16 year old girl. What conversations?
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16? they didnt look like this when i was 16. did they? later.

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Don't know any thing about this particular young lady, but if she's anything like America's brand of jet set trash she has probably achieved a level of sexual sophistication I don't even want to know about.
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So no one over there considers that a bit odd?

I suppose I took a rather prude look at things, considering there are many cultures around the world that marry people off at lesser ages than that.

I still think it's wierd for a fully grown man to be dating a mid-teen, though.
What would their conversations be like?
I haven't discussed it with any friends, but somehow I doubt that they'd sweat it. It is, after all, legal.

As far as conversations, based on the interviews I've seen with typical Belgian pros, I'd rather talk to a 16 year old (even if Boonen is unique, in that he's witty).
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If you're Belgian...and have a smokin' hot daughter...and Boonen wants to nail her...YOU LET IT HAPPEN!!!
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Don't know any thing about this particular young lady, but if she's anything like America's brand of jet set trash she has probably achieved a level of sexual sophistication I don't even want to know about.
"And that's when I walked in on my parents doing something my father would later describe as 'The Pile Driver' ".

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Her father was a pro racer. Likely she is far less in awe of Boonen as a sports figure than most would be. She probably understands a lot more about his situation as a pro rider than 99%+ of all women would (Yes even Belgian women). Good chance they have a huge set of common friends and acquantances.

I can see a lot of good reasons that are big plusses for this relationship and only one minus, and the minus will fade in time.
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