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Old 01-30-08, 01:33 PM   #1
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Who Makes the Best "Bang for the Buck" Team Kit?

I think I've mentioned before that I'm taking the design/production lead for my current club's (Cross Creek Cycling Club - C4) racing kit.

We're currently leaning towards Champion Systems, as it's hard to beat 90 bucks for shorts/bibs or a skin suit. I've heard that the caps and shoe covers leave something to be desired though.

I'm also looking at Hincapie, as I'd like to support regional business and I hear they make quality kit...it's a bit more expensive though.

What do you guys (and girls, we have a growing women's team so female specific chamois would be a bonus) recommend?
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Our Giordana stuff comes out pretty cheap and the bibs are nicer than CS.

http://www.giordana.com/apg/catalogo...m?opendocument

Bibs worked out to like 80 bucks IIRC.

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I was really unimpressed with the ChampSys gear. Very poor quality, IMO. Voler was better, and so is Hincapie.
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The worst I have had so far was Verge, most uncomfortable bibs I have ever worn. I was very happy with our team kits from squadra last season though.
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+1 for voler, a short sleeve jersey and bibs ran about $105, but the bibs have an awesome chamois.
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Champion Systems is cheap, but... the shirts are as breathable as a plastic bag, the chamois of the shorts are as thick as a folded piece of paper towel, and material of the bibs are so strondg, a teammate tore them when he pulled a GU gel from them, when he had one tucked under the leg in a TT.

The flip side: the race cut fits well.
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UF uses Canari. I think just under $100 for bibs and a jersey IIRC. It's harder to pee out of the Canari bibs than others, but that's really my only complaint.
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Champion Systems is cheap, but... the shirts are as breathable as a plastic bag, the chamois of the shorts are as thick as a folded piece of paper towel, and material of the bibs are so strondg, a teammate tore them when he pulled a GU gel from them, when he had one tucked under the leg in a TT.

The flip side: the race cut fits well.
That is close to my impression of Champion stuff, excellent fit, but cheapish build - however I've found the shirts to breathe nicely (although the kit I have from them is mostly white...)

Our stuff right now is from Primal, and it fits too loosely and breathes like crap. The chamois is very nice though.
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That is close to my impression of Champion stuff, excellent fit, but cheapish build - however I've found the shirts to breathe nicely (although the kit I have from them is mostly white...)

Our stuff right now is from Primal, and it fits too loosely and breathes like crap. The chamois is very nice though.
so is mine, but compared to my assos, it may as well be a glad bag.
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One other slap to ChampSys: when we sent in our design, we indicated on the form which colors we wanted. When we received our order, they ignored what we wrote down and printed everything in the color that we used on our design sheet.

They were hideous.
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so is mine, but compared to my assos, it may as well be a glad bag.
Great basis of comparison.
'Yeah, that local pro just sucks compared to Eddy Merckx'

That said, champion made the worst kit I've ever worn. And the best: Sugoi. Probably wouldn't have made that choice if I had to pay for it though.
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I have Voler and like it a lot. The bibs I think were about 50 (for their top of the line bibs, really comfortable) and the jerseys were about 40 if I remember correctly.
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The worst I have had so far was Verge, most uncomfortable bibs I have ever worn. I was very happy with our team kits from squadra last season though.
Are you saying worst ever or worst custom? Which other custom makes have you tried?
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Another +1 for Voler. Their clothing is pretty good for the price. I also think Pace is ok, more on the price than the quality, though.
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My Voler bibs are pilling a bit on the inner thighs (probably from occasional contact with the saddle nose) after only one season. Another data point.
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I think I've mentioned before that I'm taking the design/production lead for my current club's (Cross Creek Cycling Club - C4) racing kit.

We're currently leaning towards Champion Systems, as it's hard to beat 90 bucks for shorts/bibs or a skin suit. I've heard that the caps and shoe covers leave something to be desired though.

I'm also looking at Hincapie, as I'd like to support regional business and I hear they make quality kit...it's a bit more expensive though.

What do you guys (and girls, we have a growing women's team so female specific chamois would be a bonus) recommend?
Our shoe covers and hats turned out well. We had Hincapie kit last year so I have no idea on the durability of the CS stuff. The turn-around was about 4 weeks and I think the chamois is ok.
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I was always pretty happy with Voler, until I switched to a team that uses Squadra. The Squadra stuff fits better, and the bibs have a better chamois and fabric. The prices were pretty comparable to Voler.
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Great basis of comparison.
'Yeah, that local pro just sucks compared to Eddy Merckx'
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That said, champion made the worst kit I've ever worn. And the best: Sugoi. Probably wouldn't have made that choice if I had to pay for it though.
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I like the Voler stuff pretty well. Pretty good quality and fit but I think the short sleeve jersey sleeves should be a bit longer.
Chamois of Voler, both standard and upgraded is quite nice.

I actually like the champ sys caps. Mostly because they are made of nice breathable fabric and not cotton. The bills suck though.

Nalini kits were really nice but lead times suck and don't trust anything they promise as far as delivery dates. Start working now for 09 kit....
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Our Giordana stuff comes out pretty cheap and the bibs are nicer than CS.

http://www.giordana.com/apg/catalogo...m?opendocument

Bibs worked out to like ~80 bucks IIRC.
Same here. The last three team kits were really nice. I'm looking forward to this year's.
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+1 Voler

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Just bought a round of jerseys/bibs from Champion and found that they ended up a little nicer than ones I had seen last year. Maybe a change in material or construction. Chamois looked exactly like the ones I have in a few Voler bibs. Material seemed much closer to the same in my Voler stuff as well....

...It's a $90 kit, you get what you get.
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Champion Systems is cheap, but... the shirts are as breathable as a plastic bag, the chamois of the shorts are as thick as a folded piece of paper towel, and material of the bibs are so strondg, a teammate tore them when he pulled a GU gel from them, when he had one tucked under the leg in a TT.

The flip side: the race cut fits well.
Quit living in the past. I already told you about the chamois thickness on the newer stuff, yet you keep repeating your misinformation. Here is photographic evidence...



Is it all that great? No, but it's not thin.
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voler are great, thats what we at UK use, and cant complain yet. just a warning though, if you are going to order without a fitkit, the jerseys are a little tighter than usual for broader chests. i usually wear a med jersey, but went with a large after the fit kit
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