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    Tom's Farm TT report.

    So I did my first TT in over a year and overall I'm pretty pleased with my performance. The course is only 8.5 miles with one minor climb and the rest is rollers. You start off on -2% grade for about .5miles then make a 2-3% climb for about .6 miles then it's all rollers till the turnaround. We had 5 team members in the C4's and 1 other in the 5's.

    I started off well keeping myself in check since this was a C priority race for me. I didn't go out too fast but kept a good cadence and concentrated on my position and form. This would be a good time to mention that I've done some major adjustments to my position, changing out my Deda aero bars for Easton Attacks. The Attacks have put me in a much more aero position, lower and showing less frontal area. I'm surprisingly much more comfortable and better positioned on my saddle. I hit the climb and stayed on my extensions, and kept a steady cadence over the top. I got back into a big gear and my speed was pretty consistant as I caught my 30s man. I hit the turnaround at 10.30 at 24.5mph and took a safe line for the U-turn. I was surprised first by how good I felt then by the pretty strong headwind that greeted me when I made the turn. Even with the headwind I was able to maintain a 23-25mph ave speed, until the last 1.5 miles. My legs started to give out a bit and I dropped down to 21-22mph, I think it was more mental than physical, because in the last .5 mile I picked it back up above 25mph and sprinted the last 100m. Finish time was 21.42 @ 23.5mph, good enough for 9th position.

    Again I'm pretty pleased with my performance, not the fastest I've ever TT'd but considering that I had just finished my second week of build and this was the first time I've ridden that bike in anger since last Feb not bad. My teammate finished in 6th with a 20.55 @ 24.3mph but he's been to this course several times. My other teammate (who is first year C4) blitzed the course in 19 flat, beating 3 state champions and all the p1/2/3's. This kid is fast.

    For you Austin guys who do the RunFar TT series on SoMoPac this course is hillier so the times are longer despite the same distance.

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    Cool deal. Very nice tune-up TT for you.

    Yours was not only hillier than RunFar, but a 1/2 mile longer too. I need to start thinking about getting used to my aero setup again. Daylight Saving Time is just around the corner, so the RunFars will be happening again...

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    Quote Originally Posted by waterrockets View Post
    Cool deal. Very nice tune-up TT for you.

    Yours was not only hillier than RunFar, but a 1/2 mile longer too. I need to start thinking about getting used to my aero setup again. Daylight Saving Time is just around the corner, so the RunFars will be happening again...
    I forgot to mention that the day before we did a race simulation for the San Dimas Stage race. That didn't contribute to fresh legs Sunday morning

    I miss that RunFar series, it was right out my front door!

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    Yeah, I'm setting a goal of breaking 18:00 this year, on my current rig.

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    You'll bust that, I was doing 18.21 in training so you'll do a sub 18 easy.

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    ...appreciate the vote of confidence. My FTP is up ~10%, but my best training time was 18:32, so I have a ways to go.

    Are you looking to crack 21:00 or 20:30 in Tom's Farm?

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    17:00 is this year's goal... We'll see about that.
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    Wait....how do you crack an 18:21 in training with no aero gear? My PR sits at 18:28.

    That said, I'm a lot stronger already this year and considerably more aero...
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    Quote Originally Posted by El Diablo Rojo View Post
    So I did my first TT in over a year and overall I'm pretty pleased with my performance. The course is only 8.5 miles with one minor climb and the rest is rollers. You start off on -2% grade for about .5miles then make a 2-3% climb for about .6 miles then it's all rollers till the turnaround. We had 5 team members in the C4's and 1 other in the 5's.

    I started off well keeping myself in check since this was a C priority race for me. I didn't go out too fast but kept a good cadence and concentrated on my position and form. This would be a good time to mention that I've done some major adjustments to my position, changing out my Deda aero bars for Easton Attacks. The Attacks have put me in a much more aero position, lower and showing less frontal area. I'm surprisingly much more comfortable and better positioned on my saddle. I hit the climb and stayed on my extensions, and kept a steady cadence over the top. I got back into a big gear and my speed was pretty consistant as I caught my 30s man. I hit the turnaround at 10.30 at 24.5mph and took a safe line for the U-turn. I was surprised first by how good I felt then by the pretty strong headwind that greeted me when I made the turn. Even with the headwind I was able to maintain a 23-25mph ave speed, until the last 1.5 miles. My legs started to give out a bit and I dropped down to 21-22mph, I think it was more mental than physical, because in the last .5 mile I picked it back up above 25mph and sprinted the last 100m. Finish time was 21.42 @ 23.5mph, good enough for 9th position.

    Again I'm pretty pleased with my performance, not the fastest I've ever TT'd but considering that I had just finished my second week of build and this was the first time I've ridden that bike in anger since last Feb not bad. My teammate finished in 6th with a 20.55 @ 24.3mph but he's been to this course several times. My other teammate (who is first year C4) blitzed the course in 19 flat, beating 3 state champions and all the p1/2/3's. This kid is fast.

    For you Austin guys who do the RunFar TT series on SoMoPac this course is hillier so the times are longer despite the same distance.
    Hi EDR,

    Great, you go to Tom's Farm for the first time and you post a faster time than me. All I can say is that you're younger than me.

    Good job. I prefer having a headwind going out and a tailwind coming back. When you look at the course profile you're actually gaining altitude all the way out.

    Of course it looks like I could have cracked the top 5 in the 50+ field since there were only five 50+ guys in the race.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UT_Dude View Post
    Wait....how do you crack an 18:21 in training with no aero gear? My PR sits at 18:28.

    That said, I'm a lot stronger already this year and considerably more aero...
    I was on my TT bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleave View Post
    Hi EDR,

    Great, you go to Tom's Farm for the first time and you post a faster time than me. All I can say is that you're younger than me.

    Good job. I prefer having a headwind going out and a tailwind coming back. When you look at the course profile you're actually gaining altitude all the way out.

    Of course it looks like I could have cracked the top 5 in the 50+ field since there were only five 50+ guys in the race.
    Every one who beat me younger too..damn kids. I'm bummed that this the last Toms Farm of year I'd like another crack at that course. Are doing Piru or Fiesta Island?

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Diablo Rojo View Post
    So I did my first TT in over a year and overall I'm pretty pleased with my performance. The course is only 8.5 miles with one minor climb and the rest is rollers. You start off on -2% grade for about .5miles then make a 2-3% climb for about .6 miles then it's all rollers till the turnaround. We had 5 team members in the C4's and 1 other in the 5's.

    I started off well keeping myself in check since this was a C priority race for me. I didn't go out too fast but kept a good cadence and concentrated on my position and form. This would be a good time to mention that I've done some major adjustments to my position, changing out my Deda aero bars for Easton Attacks. The Attacks have put me in a much more aero position, lower and showing less frontal area. I'm surprisingly much more comfortable and better positioned on my saddle. I hit the climb and stayed on my extensions, and kept a steady cadence over the top. I got back into a big gear and my speed was pretty consistant as I caught my 30s man. I hit the turnaround at 10.30 at 24.5mph and took a safe line for the U-turn. I was surprised first by how good I felt then by the pretty strong headwind that greeted me when I made the turn. Even with the headwind I was able to maintain a 23-25mph ave speed, until the last 1.5 miles. My legs started to give out a bit and I dropped down to 21-22mph, I think it was more mental than physical, because in the last .5 mile I picked it back up above 25mph and sprinted the last 100m. Finish time was 21.42 @ 23.5mph, good enough for 9th position.

    Again I'm pretty pleased with my performance, not the fastest I've ever TT'd but considering that I had just finished my second week of build and this was the first time I've ridden that bike in anger since last Feb not bad. My teammate finished in 6th with a 20.55 @ 24.3mph but he's been to this course several times. My other teammate (who is first year C4) blitzed the course in 19 flat, beating 3 state champions and all the p1/2/3's. This kid is fast.

    For you Austin guys who do the RunFar TT series on SoMoPac this course is hillier so the times are longer despite the same distance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Diablo Rojo View Post
    Every one who beat me younger too..damn kids. I'm bummed that this the last Toms Farm of year I'd like another crack at that course. Are doing Piru or Fiesta Island?
    Hi,

    No Piru TTs on my schedule right now. I'm not terribly fond of that course because it's rolling downhill on the way out and you know on the way back. I might do Fiesta Island on March 9th but I will definitely do Santiago Canyon on March 1st. I really like Fiesta Island but my wife has a concert that afternoon and getting back in time will be very difficult.
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    Quote Originally Posted by waterrockets View Post
    Yeah, I'm setting a goal of breaking 18:00 this year, on my current rig.
    Well I guess that puts me about 17:40

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    Quote Originally Posted by UT_Dude View Post
    17:00 is this year's goal... We'll see about that.
    Are you kidding me? Are you having delusions of being David Wenger?

    I think me, Waterrockets, you, and any other Austinites should plan a "race of truth" on the Run Far course in the near future. We'll flip to see who is the rabbit...

    Who's in?

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    Man, I really need to start riding in that position again

    I guess RunFar will be starting it back up in April maybe.

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    I'm totally in.

    Am I having delusions of being Wenger... No, but I think 17:00 is an achievable goal. Improvements over last year, even at this early in the season, are rather abundant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleave View Post


    Of course it looks like I could have cracked the top 5 in the 50+ field since there were only five 50+ guys in the race.
    i've discovered this strategy also works for tandem TT's, rarely more than 5 teams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UT_Dude View Post
    I'm totally in.

    Am I having delusions of being Wenger... No, but I think 17:00 is an achievable goal. Improvements over last year, even at this early in the season, are rather abundant.
    Yeah, in theory I may be able to crack 18 as I sit right now. I'm hesitant to call it out since last season was my first time even cracking 20 minutes! Now I can beat 20 without aero bars

    I think I'll be able to average 355-360W the next time I hit it.

    Gotta find those no-wind times though!

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