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Old 02-23-08, 06:08 PM   #1
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TOC-Cavendish relegated, wahappen?

Cavendish was relegated. Right after the sprint, Cippolini was pissed at Cavendish, he seemed to have some words with him. Then the announcement that Cav. was relegated.

It must be that Cavendish had some illegal help chasing back up to the peleton after the crash.

Any news?
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Old 02-23-08, 06:09 PM   #2
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Haven't found any updates yet...that was the only thing I could figure happened as well.
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Mark Cavendish (Team High Road) may have won the stage six final sprint into Santa Clarita, but he did not win the stage. Officials gave him a 20 second time penalty for hanging onto a team car when trying to regain the peloton after a crash on the finishing circuits that involved several Rock Racing riders including Mario Cipollini and Freddie Rodriguez.

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What a bunch of bull..
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Mark Cavendish (Team High Road) may have won the stage six final sprint into Santa Clarita, but he did not win the stage. Officials gave him a 20 second time penalty for hanging onto a team car when trying to regain the peloton after a crash on the finishing circuits that involved several Rock Racing riders including Mario Cipollini and Freddie Rodriguez.

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serves him right if thats what happened.
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still one of the most impressive kicks I've seen in a while.
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nice to know that Team High Road is not above a little opportunistic advantage-gettin'

for a moment there, i was afraid that all these "reform" teams were going to do to cycling what the Puritans did to sex.
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Old 02-23-08, 07:15 PM   #9
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^^true, but a bit easier after a brief respite from the race.
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Old 02-23-08, 07:19 PM   #10
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nice to know that Team High Road is not above a little opportunistic advantage-gettin'

for a moment there, i was afraid that all these "reform" teams were going to do to cycling what the Puritans did to sex.
Before you set off into the sunset on that high horse of yours, recall what position Cipo took in the sprint, and ask yoursef a simple question: if Cavendish got to the front with some help from his team car, how exactly did a 40-something rider end up a bike length behind him, given that they both were involved in the crash?
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Old 02-23-08, 07:28 PM   #11
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Before you set off into the sunset on that high horse of yours, recall what position Cipo took in the sprint, and ask yoursef a simple question: if Cavendish got to the front with some help from his team car, how exactly did a 40-something rider end up a bike length behind him, given that they both were involved in the crash?
you're implying that Cipo cheated too and that further validates my observation that there's nothing new under the sun. same old same old.
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Old 02-23-08, 07:35 PM   #12
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Before you set off into the sunset on that high horse of yours, recall what position Cipo took in the sprint, and ask yoursef a simple question: if Cavendish got to the front with some help from his team car, how exactly did a 40-something rider end up a bike length behind him, given that they both were involved in the crash?
Did you notice Cipo lighting into Cavendish immediately after the finish? I guess Cipo was working his way back while Cav was hanging out of the cab.
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By the time they entered the finishing circuits, Cipo has already managed to catch up with the peloton after a wheel change - at least once.
So no, I do not think Cavendish was whisked past Cipo as he pedaled furiously by himself.
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Old 02-23-08, 08:52 PM   #14
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Cipo was relegated as well.
Results put him and Cavendish at the back of the front group.
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Old 02-23-08, 08:59 PM   #15
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Maybe Cipo was telling him after something like that you keep a low profile at the line and not draw all sorts of attention by sprinting for the win...
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Old 02-23-08, 09:25 PM   #16
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should get some sound information to make sure just not alot of rumours.
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The official website clearly shows the two of them 20 seconds behind the pack's time. What part are you trying to get clear information for?
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I would love to see some footage of them working back to the group, they were standing still while the pace was ON. My wife and I were convinced they must have cut the course somehow.
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Cipo was riding a Cannondale, which is clearly an unfair advantage.

I was kind of wondering how Cipo got back. I figured he took a bus. He did.
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+1 cannondales are speedy.
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I was kind of wondering how Cipo got back. I figured he took a bus. He did.
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According to Velonews Cavendish was holding onto the team car to get his rear dr adjusted. This is a common practice isn't it? I've seen riders holding on to get their bikes fixed many times. Cippo also got relagated for holding onto the team car. Cippo was mad at Cavendish for causing the crash.
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According to Velonews Cavendish was holding onto the team car to get his rear dr adjusted. This is a common practice isn't it? I've seen riders holding on to get their bikes fixed many times. Cippo also got relagated for holding onto the team car. Cippo was mad at Cavendish for causing the crash.
I read the same article and I am a bit confused, too. Would he have been charged the penalty if he hadn't won? What if the crash was in at 40km rather than the last 5k and they made the same adjustments for his rear dr? not suggesting anything fishy, rules are rules afterall, but enforcing them has always been the gray area.
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for a moment there, i was afraid that all these "reform" teams were going to do to cycling what the Puritans did to sex.
wow.. just...... wow.
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