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    racing in the rain

    so looks like this weekend's race will be in a rainfall. any tips?

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    make your tires about 5-10 psi lower than normal. And be careful in the turns.
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    Who uses race blades while racing?
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    Kool Stop salmon brake pads. Clear lens sunglasses.

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    Good to haves:

    Embrocation or vaseline
    Rain jacket
    Booties w/ tape around the top

    Need:

    Clear or yellow glasses
    Lots of food and water
    A good look at the course
    Dry change of clothes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Idioteque View Post
    so looks like this weekend's race will be in a rainfall. any tips?
    try and breath through your nose so you don't drown on the spray from the wheel you are sitting on.

    wear glasses

    brake before the turns and don't put too much weight on your hands while turning

    avoid painted surfaces/manhole covers/grates/whatever

    watch for gravel and sand accumulations in areas where water is streaming

    be on the front early as there will most likely be a wreck in the last turn... if you're not on the front, be on the inside of the turn as those who crash will slide to the outside and even if you avoid the wreck, they may block your escape routes and end your race for you

    have fun. if you're a good bike handler, you will be amazed at how poorly those around you handle their bikes. take advantage of this. you'll work less if you leave a big gap coming into the corner and catching back on on the exit

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoRacer View Post
    Who uses race blades while racing?
    Not such a good idea. They don't keep the rain off you that well, because it's all coming at you from the guy in front of you. Plus, you'd have to ziptie them on your bike. There was a pretty bad wreck a couple years back in one race when a RaceBlade got loose in the pack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yonderboy View Post
    Not such a good idea. They don't keep the rain off you that well, because it's all coming at you from the guy in front of you. Plus, you'd have to ziptie them on your bike. There was a pretty bad wreck a couple years back in one race when a RaceBlade got loose in the pack.
    Good to know.

    If I were to use them, they would not move as they would be ShoeGoo'd to the frame (as well as using the rubber bands).
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    Good way to test traction: after your warm up, get in a big gear and jump from a trackstand or a slow roll (don't fall). You'll get an idea of how hard you can accelerate and still maintain traction. It sucks losing traction coming out of a corner or when you skip off a Bott dot while still pedaling, so keeping cornering smooth is even more important.

    Road race or crit? Not sure it makes a difference, but I think a good attitude is important, but I guess you wouldn't be racing in the rain unless you wanted to. Like doing any ride in the rain it's more fun if you think of it as fun, rather than as dangerous or a slog. Self-fulfilling prophecy kind of deal.

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    ah all great advice, thank you

    it's the phoenixville fury road race... 1.2 mile 8% climb and a lot of descending that curves (scary)

    it's only my 3rd race too, and i just moved up to Cs, ah well i'll try to make it fun ;d

    Everything is more or less under my control though, besides being cold.. that would suck. Is it worse or better to layer on a rainy day? Temperature should be about 45F

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    repeats, and possible additions:

    embrocation with baby oil on top of the embrocation.

    vest/jacket for descent, or someone up there to give you a newspaper.

    tire pressure.

    cycling cap under the helmet.

    clear glasses (but you've got that covered).

    long fingered gloves.

    st. christopher's medal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Idioteque View Post
    Everything is more or less under my control though, besides being cold.. that would suck. Is it worse or better to layer on a rainy day? Temperature should be about 45F
    Eh, 45F isn't that bad, even in the rain, wet clothes end up being more like a wetsuit and have something of a warming effect. Just watch out for the extremities, move your hand position more to avoid numbness, wear booties. I run a little hotter than some but I was comfortable in a plain jersey, no-sleave base, arm warmers, shorts, leg warmers, shoe covers, wool socks, long finger gloves in a couple wet 45 minute crit back in January. I wouldn't layer excessively unless you get cold easily.

    Not sure what that means for a RR, but the wind could get to you on the descent so a packable wind vest or jacket could be a good idea (just make sure to either call out your number to the officials or take off your vest before the finish if it obscures your number).

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    Quote Originally Posted by botto View Post
    repeats, and possible additions:

    embrocation with baby oil on top of the embrocation.

    vest/jacket for descent, or someone up there to give you a newspaper.

    tire pressure.

    cycling cap under the helmet.

    clear glasses (but you've got that covered).

    long fingered gloves.

    st. christopher's medal.
    embrocation with baby oil on top of the embrocation <- Can this stuff be picked up somewhere locally? My race on Saturday may be cold and wet. Mentally, I'm ready. Thanks to commutes and the whole "Screw it, deal with it" attitude.

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    Stay home?

    Not getting paid to do this. If it's not going to be fun,and it's more dangerous than normal, why do it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by merlinextraligh View Post
    Stay home?

    Not getting paid to do this. If it's not going to be fun,and it's more dangerous than normal, why do it?
    I really want to race, and it's a home race for me because im from philly (i race with the BU cycling team). Anyone from the team who can make it to philly will be racing anyway, so hell, if they can i should be able to. And it should be fun : ) i just want to be prepared so i don't have to take any unnecessary risks.

    Thanks again for the advice guys, feel free to keep the discussion going

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    Yeah, this is probably going to be my first race so I'm keeping an eye on this thread as well.

    Thanks for the advice so far.
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    Do you embrocate your entire body before hand to keep the moisture out?
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    Quote Originally Posted by substructure View Post
    embrocation with baby oil on top of the embrocation <- Can this stuff be picked up somewhere locally? My race on Saturday may be cold and wet. Mentally, I'm ready. Thanks to commutes and the whole "Screw it, deal with it" attitude.
    a well stocked lbs? otherwise something like tiger balm might work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ridethecliche View Post
    Do you embrocate your entire body before hand to keep the moisture out?
    legs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ridethecliche View Post
    Do you embrocate your entire body before hand to keep the moisture out?
    If you are using a warm-up balm (Atomic Balm, Leg Salsa, etc) and not just vaseline I'd keep it away from the sensitive areas Legs only, don't rub your eyes or touch your face. If you gotta take a piss after do it carefully, unless you are doing a flying 1k and want to set some world records.

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    Quote Originally Posted by botto View Post
    a well stocked lbs? otherwise something like tiger balm might work.
    My LBS is not that well stocked. That's why I asked. I guess I need to order some as well.

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    Damn, I don't have a good rain jacket either...

    This is going to be one heck of a weekend.
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    If the race starts dry, get ready to attack. When the rain starts, attack with everything you've got. Most people will shut down like a Flint GM plant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EventServices View Post
    If the race starts dry, get ready to attack. When the rain starts, attack with everything you've got. Most people will shut down like a Flint GM plant.
    Exactly what I was thinking. Man, if the rain starts at my race I'm off the front quick. It's a 6 mile loop with a huge climb at the end. This should be fun.

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    dude this is lame, everyone who i am trying to get a ride down to greenville with is pansying out due to the abysmal forecast. 20% chance of rain... whatever! hopefully i will still end up going. if not i will sit around in nc feeling sorry for myself.

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