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Old 03-09-08, 11:12 AM   #1
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Question for Veteran racers

Do the pre-race butterflies ever go away?
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Old 03-09-08, 11:48 AM   #2
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Yes, I've done so many races it's more like pre-race boredom.
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the more you race the less each one matters.

try doing a couple crits a day, or do some track omniums (multiple races in a few hours). After a few weeks you'll be pretty relaxed at the line.
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Yeah, when I was only doing one or two races/year, I had butterflies. First race this year, just a little bit. 2nd race, none. They do go away with frequency. They're kind of good for your edge though. If they're accompanied by a case of the runnies, then that can interfere with prep...
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I actually try hard to get myself to have those "butterflies". They make me faster.
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yes and no.

yes when you're riding with a group, and on a course, that you more or less know.

no when that's not the case.

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depends on the race.
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Butterflies never go away.
Toilet use is increased, caffeine is in full effect and the newbs are mine.
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Yes, for local club races.
No, for State open races.....nothing more frightening on this planet than 80 or more veteran riders trying to win a sprint and claim the "plastic" trophy and $250 prize money, only to nearly get into a punch up 'cos they won't split the moola with other riders.

I pose another question to you veterans,

Why do some vets race and train like they're trying to qualify for the Olympics, and have huge egos?

...and please Botto, don't give me a tongue lashing and tell me to go back to the folding forum, and before you question my racing pedigree.....Veteran A grade scratch rider in club and state races, winner of numerous State opens, placed 2nd and 3rd in club champs, which BTW is one of the strongest in Oz...blah, blah blah.

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Yes, for local club races.
No, for State open races.....nothing more frightening on this planet than 80 or more veteran riders trying to win a sprint and claim the "plastic" trophy and $250 prize money, only to nearly get into a punch up 'cos they won't split the moola with other riders.

I pose another question to you veterans,

Why do some vets race and train like they're trying to qualify for the Olympics, and have huge egos?


...and please Botto, don't give me a tongue lashing
congrats on the WTF non sequitur.
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I don't want them to go away. I want to be alert and anxious - but not too anxious. I want to feel the adrenaline. If I get bored I am done.
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congrats on the WTF non sequitur.
What the hell does that mean?
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I don't want them to go away. I want to be alert and anxious - but not too anxious. I want to feel the adrenaline. If I get bored I am done.
I love the butterflies. They keep me feeling like I love this sport.
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I'm not a "veteran", but I've found that the butterflies go away for non-important races. I've been doing a series of training crits and haven't experienced any butterflies with those.

On the flip side, I had serious butterflies going into the "queen stage" of our team's training camp.
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Why do some vets race and train like they're trying to qualify for the Olympics, and have huge egos?
In a given region, there are probably vets who have trained for the Olympics. Lots of Cat 1s and 2s who just don't want to race 100 miles twice/week. So, if you want to compete against those jokers, you need to train like they do.

I get by on 8 hrs/week. While I'm not a contender, I'd say I'm competitive. If I'm ever in an M35+ race that doesn't end in a break, look out. In the mean time I'll be trying to make it into the break
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In a given region, there are probably vets who have trained for the Olympics. Lots of Cat 1s and 2s who just don't want to race 100 miles twice/week. So, if you want to compete against those jokers, you need to train like they do.

I get by on 8 hrs/week. While I'm not a contender, I'd say I'm competitive. If I'm ever in an M35+ race that doesn't end in a break, look out. In the mean time I'll be trying to make it into the break
I commend you for your dedication. Even though you have less time than most you utilize the time to train right.
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What the hell does that mean?
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Oh. Come. On. You couldn't come back with a non sequitur reply?



And thanks Sub. You're making the same moves, applying your commute to your training with dedication. We all get by with the commitments we have
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When they 100% go away its time to find a new sport....
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Yes, I've done so many races it's more like pre-race boredom.
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Hi,

IMHO, butterflies should go away for your lower priority races once you've gotten a hundred or so races under your belt. I still get kind of anxious when I'm in a race where I either think I can do something or when there are a lot of big guns (vs. the usual some big guns) in the race. Also I am initially nervous when I'm racing on a course for the first time. However, after a few laps that goes away.
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When they 100% go away its time to find a new sport....
Nah. If you race enough it just becomes a normal part of your week and you go to the line and race until you feel like throwing up, then race some more.
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I did my first two races this past weekend.

I was too busy shivering at the line to have pre race butterflies. Although, when I started falling behind, I started thinking pcad cycling zen comes from self loathing and I told myself to push it as hard as possible since it was all about going hard or going home. I didn't drive that much to stop trying. And it worked

Seeing people crashing in front of me did get the adrenaline going though!
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