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Old 03-11-08, 08:22 AM   #1
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UMD President's Crit

It is still open. For Cat 5, 4, and 4/3 races.

Is there a reason for that? I am thinking about signing up for it. But want to see if there is a reason it hasn't filled right up...
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Old 03-11-08, 08:37 AM   #2
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its one of the most technical crits in the area. the course is really short and narrow in places. It can be sketchy and the weather was horrible last year.

im signed up
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From what I've read, it's a high attrition race -- and likely too early in the season for a bunch of unnecessary risks.
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Old 03-11-08, 08:45 AM   #4
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I think it would be good for me to see a true technical crit. I need to get permission from my financial adviser (wife) and I think I will do it. I love racing.

Is it also flat? Or something like Tradezone with a slight elevation change?
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Old 03-11-08, 08:51 AM   #5
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its flat for the most part but has a short steep climb and following decent. The downhill section is a real narrow driveway with a 90 degree right hander at the bottem.

landshark has heard right. this race is all about attrition.
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Old 03-11-08, 09:02 AM   #6
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here is the course map



this first part of presidential drive is up after the chicane you go back down.

the very first turn can be sketchy because it leads you to a 90 degree turn but its less mellow than that so people often times have to correct at the last second. That puts you into a wide open parking lot that funnels down right before the next turn. Someone usually gets run into the curb there.
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Old 03-11-08, 09:04 AM   #7
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Registrations are low because the blood is still on the pavement from last year.
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Old 03-11-08, 09:18 AM   #8
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I need the mass starts to upgrade. I just gotta be careful and don't sacrifice myself just for position. I need the experience as well.
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Do the race, learn from it and have fun. Arrive early and watch the collegiate race. A lot of guys will be keyed up at the beginning and go on autopilot through the corners thinking it is TZ. Make sure you have a good position at the start line as the first turn will be jammed up(you've got to thread some concrete curbs). The same can be said for the final right hand corner at the bottom of the driveway(atleast for the first lap or two). Expect some knucklehead to shoot up the inside at these two spots. Get in line before those corners. The other racers are correct this course will separate the wheat from the chaff (or at least the February hammers for those peaking later in the season). Heck, bring your wife and make a day of it. Reassure her that the ambulance is there for the unlucky, under-trained, and inexperienced and that you are none of these. Good luck.
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I just don't talk about crashes around her. Though I wish she could come. She is gonna be at work.

But I just gotta talk to her tonight and then hopefully sign up.
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last year there was a bad crash resulting in a puddle of blood on turn two in the last collegiate race. During warm up laps prior to the cat 5 race you had to navigate around it. What a great start to the season.
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Yeah, about the only good to come of that was it that it may have given some of the crash 4 and 5s a little pause. I'm all for racing hard and taking your lumps at the hands of those better conditioned and more experienced but accidents because of inattention or poorly reasoned risks is a real peave.

Anyway, good luck again. Stay alert. You'll have a blast. I hear you. The whole crash thing can be tough on the spouse. Maybe I'll catch you at the Dville rides this spring. I hope to get out for my twice weekly thrashing now that we've got an extra hour to play with.

Oh yeah, the monicer in no way implies that I am at the front of any peleton. Basemetallegs didn't roll off the tongue. So if you want race reports from the front talk to Lithuania or Bdcheung. If you want to know what it looks like from the grupetto or from just in front of the motor ref I got you covered.
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haha im never near the front.

last year in the 5s there was almost a crash in the first turn because of the oddness of it. Once that was over with the weather blew the race apart so most people were in small groups which felt less sketchy.
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Hehe, I thought this thread was about me somehow
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Hehe, I thought this thread was about me somehow
you're not the only one.
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If there's a crash at this race, odds are good that it'll be bad. That said, it was my first ever crit last year and I was scared to death of the other racers, but the chicane is so much fun if you find the right line (around the manhole covers).
I'll be there, probably racing collegiate and USCF, though I'm holding off on the last one till after I see how my morning goes. I need more starts to try to cat up this year, and the W3/4 is scored separately, but my friend face-planted in that race last year after placing 1st or 2nd in the collegiate field.
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The traditional start to MABRA season is Jeff Cup. Since this race is only in its 3rd year, and pre-dates Jeff Cup, it hasnt caught on like alot of other races that arent nearly as good. Plus the fields offered for USCF racing are lean and the races are late in the day.

It's a great course, technical, hard, fast, and lots of wind on the downhill part where you would think you should be recovering. Typically, in the 3, 4, 5 fields, there have been 50 - 60+ starters, and less than 15 finishers. I hope I get back from this stupid business trip I'm on in time to do a day of registration.
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damn i was really looking forward to this and to the hopkins rr the next day, but i won't be able to make it. oh well.
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The traditional start to MABRA season is Jeff Cup. Since this race is only in its 3rd year, and pre-dates Jeff Cup, it hasnt caught on like alot of other races that arent nearly as good. Plus the fields offered for USCF racing are lean and the races are late in the day.

It's a great course, technical, hard, fast, and lots of wind on the downhill part where you would think you should be recovering. Typically, in the 3, 4, 5 fields, there have been 50 - 60+ starters, and less than 15 finishers. I hope I get back from this stupid business trip I'm on in time to do a day of registration.
I think I'll see you there in the 3/4. I was going to start my season at walkersville, but given how close this is to home, it's kind of silly to not go.
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Anyway, good luck again. Stay alert. You'll have a blast. I hear you. The whole crash thing can be tough on the spouse. Maybe I'll catch you at the Dville rides this spring. I hope to get out for my twice weekly thrashing now that we've got an extra hour to play with.
Wife says it is a go. I am double checking on the weather and refund status if it gets canceled for some reason. Just to reassure her. I will go out in the rain though.

leadlegs - you going to Davidsonvilla this Thursday? I think I am gonna head out there for a good thrashing. Nothing says hurt for me like trying to hold a wheel in a pace line going at 28-30mph on a slightly rolling road. At least I am stronger now than I was last year.
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I think I'll see you there in the 3/4. I was going to start my season at walkersville, but given how close this is to home, it's kind of silly to not go.
If I get there and you see me, say hey. But - dont get behind my wheel, I'll have been off the bike for the 8 preceeding days, a little jet lagged, and am likely to end up OTB quickly.
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I am just gonna end up doing Tradezone Sunday morning.

With the tendency of the crashes on Saturday at UMD and the fact that I ship for boot camp March 24, I don't want to risk a crash. And the UMD course is just too dangerous. Tradezone is wide open and better.
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i'm going to do the A race at cold toes instead.
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booooooooooooooo
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Tradezone is wide open and better.
i guess if you mean boring is better
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