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Old 03-15-08, 05:16 PM   #1
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Victory Salute Rules?

From USAC webpage at the bottom of this link.

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Taking the hands off the handlebars


About twice a year I get a report of a rider who won a race and was then disqualified for taking his hands off the bars for a victory salute. The problem with this is that the rule disallowing that went away at least 2 years ago. There is no rule that says you cannot take your hands off the handlebars anymore. We do have the following general rule:

1O7. Dangerous Rider. Any rider who appears to present a danger to the other competitors may be disqualified by the Chief Referee, either before or during a race.


My feeling is that a CR will have a hard time declaring a rider to be dangerous for taking hands off the bars if there is no incident. Clearly, if the rider takes his hands off the bars in a tight sprint, loses control of his bike, and causes a crash, then he did present a danger and can be dealt with accordingly. But please, if a rider is clear by a bike length and gives a two-handed victory salute and causes no issue, it is just petty to disqualify that rider. As a slow amateur rider for 15 years I can tell you that the dismally few moments of fleeting glory are what make the years of training worth it.


In summary, I would say that if a rider takes his hands off the bars in a victory salute, most of the time there should be nothing said about it, other than to congratulate the rider. If it was in a very close sprint where only for the grace of God did people not go down, then a warning is in order. If you disqualify or relegate the rider, I would also expect to be receiving an accident report along with the CR report.


That is about all I had for this one. I hope you are enjoying the spring.


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Old 03-15-08, 05:19 PM   #2
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this applies to anyone who participates in a races where there are cat 3/4/5s in the field -

solo, or in a small break. sure.

in the midst of a field sprint. idiotic.
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Old 03-15-08, 06:44 PM   #3
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My teammate won today's crit with about a 50 yard gap behind him. He coasted the final 25 feet with his hands off the bars. Chief referee didn't have issue.
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Old 03-15-08, 08:07 PM   #4
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I won a crit today. Hands firmly attached to bars. Didn't have to sprint for it.

That is all. I just like bragging.
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Old 03-15-08, 08:09 PM   #5
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I hope that I have this problem.
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I won a crit today. Hands firmly attached to bars. Didn't have to sprint for it.

That is all. I just like bragging.
Well done. Can't wait til I can hit the crits...
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Well done. Can't wait til I can hit the crits...
If I raced master's in texas I could wait til you hit the crits. I could wait a long time. Hell, I'm a little worried racing 3's in Colorado. There's always a chance some fool in a CU jersey on a steel bike might win any sprint with a 200m gap on everyone.
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Like this is a big problem for me.
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My bathroom mirror isn't big enough to handle my rehearsal.

When I win solo, I plan to present Wagner's "Elsa's Procession to the Cathedral" while standing on my top tube.
But if I'm in a field sprint, I'll probably shorten it some. I mean c'mon, where would I put the orchestra??

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I've been fortunate enough to win a handful of races in the beginner old guy class and I'm definitely a "hands-on-bars-look-straight-ahead" kind of guy, mostly because I know I would biff it bigtime if I tried to lift both hands off of the bars at the same time.

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Im gonna pull a bettini the next time i get a win:
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I'm more of a McEwen man, myself.









Or I would be, if I ever won, and didn't care if I faceplanted.
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I think it's time to post this again:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=TwXThquznA0&feature=related

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this applies to anyone who participates in a races where there are cat 3/4/5s in the field -

solo, or in a small break. sure.


in the midst of a field sprint. idiotic.
...and that is why we thank you for never doing this. For those who can actually ride a bike, have fun.
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My bathroom mirror isn't big enough to handle my rehearsal.

When I win solo, I plan to present Wagner's "Elsa's Procession to the Cathedral" while standing on my top tube.
But if I'm in a field sprint, I'll probably shorten it some. I mean c'mon,
where would I put the orchestra??
Where the rest of us put it, in our heads.
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Old 03-16-08, 07:24 PM   #17
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My bathroom mirror isn't big enough to handle my rehearsal.

When I win solo, I plan to present Wagner's "Elsa's Procession to the Cathedral" while standing on my top tube.
But if I'm in a field sprint, I'll probably shorten it some. I mean c'mon, where would I put the orchestra??
Having played classical music (violin) for more than 8 years of my life, I laughed so hard at this that I started coughing. Nice one
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Having played classical music (violin) for more than 8 years of my life, I laughed so hard at this that I started coughing. Nice one
lol I played from K-12. I was a much better violin player than I ever was as a bike racer, and until I got my last bike, my violin was worth *way* more than any of my bikes (but I didn't pay for it). Now I think it's debatable.

Problem with violins is that there are no field sprints in orchestra, save the one to get out of the parking lot after rehearsal.

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*edit* I forgot to stay on topic. I practice my salutes while on the trainer. I have a couple mirrors set up to check out form etc. However, even when I won in a (only time ever) two man break by 50 meters or something, I still threw my bike. Old habits die hard.
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