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Old 03-23-08, 11:29 PM   #1
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Ronde van Brisbeen -- Who's riding Sunday?

Any advice for this "elite" (my only sign-up option) woman? Any BF weenies riding it?

I'm just now feeling good after being beaten up by the flu. My plan is to show up and have fun, but I'm not opposed to incorporating others' experiences.

I know there's a hill so I have a hill repeater training ride on my schedule this week.

Anything else I should know?
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Old 03-23-08, 11:31 PM   #2
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I'll be there Saturday and Sunday. I know Pizzaman raced it last year, maybe he can chime it on course description.
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Old 03-24-08, 12:38 AM   #3
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I'll be there both days.
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I will be there both days - Cat 4. I have never raced either course but I hear they are both pretty cool. Hopefully somebody who has raced either can chime in.
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Old 03-28-08, 11:42 PM   #5
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*Bump*

Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?

I haven't raced in 5 weeks. After two weeks with the flu, I had 3 days of intense trainingthis week. Took off today, will spin and do maybe 2 hours of Zone 2-3 tomorrow. Race is Sunday. I'd like to do well, of course, but will be happy with not embarrassing myself. Any insight into the course will be much appreciated; we won't have time to ride it prior to the race.
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Old 03-29-08, 12:15 AM   #6
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Sorry, I guess this thread got buried and I didn't see it until now.

I'll be doing 2 races tomorrow and 2 on Sunday. This will be the first time I've tried 4 races in 2 days (28.5 hours actually).

I guess my advice would depend on what kind of rider you are, sprinter, climber, TT specialist?

The course is a 1.7 mile loop on a gentle slope. There is only 1 turn that can be tricky, the one at the bottom of the hill. Try to be in front or close to the front for this turn. The climb isn't very steep, or very long, but it's a short circuit, so it's basically just hill repeats. I consider climbing to be my strength, but the climb on this course isn't nearly long or steep enough to drop most of the guys I race with. I got lucky last year and rolled off the front at the top of the climb with 3 laps to go as guys were resting/regrouping. As soon as I had a gap I ran with it and I had opened up about 20 seconds before guys started chasing in earnest and I ended up holding off the sprinters by about 1 second.

If you're not a sprinter, but have good power for around 10 minutes, you can try this.
Unfortunately I think you're only allowed to do that once (unless you move to another state).

If climbing is not a strength of yours I would suggest the "drift" method of starting each climb near the front of the pack and doing each climb at a pace where you won't blow up as you drift back through the field, then make your way back to the front on the descent. This way you save your strength for the all out sprint up the climb on the last lap.

As I recall, it was not too windy out there last year, but it can be windy (and is supposed to be windy this weekend). The prevailing wind is from the west, so it's in your face as you go up the hill. This can effectively neutralize the climb, which is a good thing if climbing is not a strength. If this is the case, I'll probably try a breakaway on the downhill, though that doesn't work too often.

Good luck!
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in. doing both also but only 1 race each day LoL E4 racing with BBC

did the crit last year and this is my first year doing the circuit. thanks for the description =o) and see you out there.

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Thanks, P-Man, that's just what I was looking for.

I taught a Spinning class this morning after taking yesterday off, and having 3 intense training days this week. I'm playing in my gardens, weeding and planting and enjoying an overcast but not unpleasant spring day, and mentally preparing for tomorrow. Your description of the course, as well as different options according to strengths, is extremely helpful.

Stop by and say hello if you see me...I'll be in my Team Precision kit on the green Orca.

Good luck tomorrow!
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180 is brutal. took 7th and snatched a prime =o)

Watching the pro's was nice way to enjoy my prime (bottle of wine)
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PIZZAMAN is a Machine!!!!!!! he can give his own race report but so very impressive.

Me, I sucked. I rode a good enough race and had plenty o juice but a kamakazi riders luck finally ended while bombing the 180 lap after lap. He crashed, I got stuck and finished 12th.
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Day 1 - Criterium - 2 down, 2 to go.

First was the 35+ race. I had 3 teammates and we didn't have much of a race plan, other than stay in the front and try to get in a breakaway, and try to pick up a few Omnium points. So that's what I did. After about 5 laps the stronger guys kept attacking, trying to get away, but everyone was chasing and nothing was getting away. Then I attacked, just hoping to pull 2-3 guys with me for a break, but no one came with me.

This was only about 20 minutes into the 50 min crit. I put my head down and started hammering hoping that 1 or 2 guys might bridge up to me. After a few laps and a prime, my lead was hovering around 10-12 seconds. At the 180 U-turn I could see that the chase group was 5 guys. I really thought that I was doomed and that they were just leaving my hanging out there. I had some teammates watching and I asked them if I should sit up, but they said "No!, GO, GO, GO!", so I went. The 5 chasers would work together for a while, get closer, split in 2, then fall back again a few times. Meanwhile I took another 2 primes. At this point I was thinking "well, I'll probably get caught, but 6th place and 3 primes isn't too bad". Then with about 3 laps to go the strongest of the chasers broke away from the other 4 and they fell back and my lead was about 15 seconds, so I knew I had a great chance to hang on, and I did for my first real crit win! I was even able to sit up and ride across the line with my hands in the air.

The Pro/1/2 report will be much shorter. A 7 man break with a couple BMC and a Health Net rider got away early while I was hanging out in the back of the main field trying not to get dropped. I had 1 teammate in the field, but he wasn't feeling great, so I decided to go to the front and help the guys on me ex-team with the chase. We kept the breakaway fairly close for a while and reeled in a couple of them, but never caught the lead 5. I came across in the chase pack in 20th.

Now I'm pretty tired so I'm going to rest up for round 2 tomorrow.
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