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Old 04-23-08, 04:25 PM   #1
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My FTP isn't 234 watts

It's 235 watts. Or something like that. Did a test and everything. Killed myself. My heart rate chart looked like the snake that ate the elephant. Or a hat. Right down to the slight taper towards the end of the hump.



And I did a massive 235 watts for 20 minutes. 226 watts for 30 minutes (that taper, remember?). 161 bpm for the entire period. Killer. Since I sat up after 30 minutes my 60 minute number looks a bit normal for me - 182 watts.

Ah well. I'm a Cat 3. What can I say.

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Yeah, but what's your 5s number? My FTP might be ~100 watts higher, but I gauran-damn-tee your 5s number is more than 100 watts higher than my earth shaking 1200 watts...plus you can position yourself in the right places to make up for the lack of threshold, race smart, and pull out results.

That's what matters, not e-wang FTP measurement.
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By the way, your 20-minute e-wang isn't the same as your FTP e-wang.
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By the way, your 20-minute e-wang isn't the same as your FTP e-wang.
he's right you know. take your 20 min number and multiply it by .92-.95. Your FTP should be in that range

i too would like to know your max, 5 and 10 second peak
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I averaged 290 watts for 18.5 mins, I think that extrapolates into an FTP of 260-270 or so. In any event, as I have stated before, in my case FTP stands for Friggin Terrible Power. Now for Dr. W. it might stand for F The Peloton.
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he's right you know. take your 20 min number and multiply it by .92-.95. Your FTP should be in that range

i too would like to know your max, 5 and 10 second peak
I'd go so far as to hazard a guess that the range goes from as far as .9 to .97 depending upon the type of athlete one is. A trackie might be able to make a demonic 20 minute number due to a huge AWC and VO2 capacity - but die shortly thereafter. Whereas a strong triathlete might not fade much at all from 20 to 60 minutes.
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If you can win races with formulas and spreadsheets I would be Cat 0. It isn't like that.
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If you can win races with formulas and spreadsheets I would be Cat 0. It isn't like that.
FTP is a big deal my little mollusk.
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FTP is a big deal my little mollusk.
In a TT.

Not so much in a bunch sprint.
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I averaged 290 watts for 18.5 mins, I think that extrapolates into an FTP of 260-270 or so. In any event, as I have stated before, in my case FTP stands for Friggin Terrible Power. Now for Dr. W. it might stand for F The Peloton.
Lmfao.

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FTP= F The Peloton.

Classic.

Edit: CDR. You could train a lot harder to get that up. Or you could just keep doing what you're doing and keep winning in the sprints where you set yourself up

I wish I had one jump right now, let alone 3 when trained.

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It made me LOL all over my shirt.
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My FTP number isn't too bad until you put in that pesky little /kg bit.
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In Jacksonville TT's, I doubt it matters that much...
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he's right you know. take your 20 min number and multiply it by .92-.95. Your FTP should be in that range

i too would like to know your max, 5 and 10 second peak
I go to dinner and come back to find this? So my FTP is more like 215-225? This is worse than I thought.

5s is something in the 1400w range (like 1420-1430). Max was low 1500w last year (1530w), this year I haven't gotten past 1450w, but I haven't actually done a real sprint either, not one I thought "man, that was good" afterwards. 10s I don't have a recollection and my laptop with my power stuff is packed away (see note at bottom). I know I've done about 800w for 30 seconds though, so it's between 800w and 1400w.

Note: I looked it up. Seems like 1250w is pretty consistent for 10 seconds.

I weigh 175 lbs, give or take. Maybe a couple pounds lighter but for any calculations 175 is good. 5'7" so I'm no redwood. I'm dense, as I told a nurse during a physical.

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I averaged 290 watts for 18.5 mins, I think that extrapolates into an FTP of 260-270 or so.
I actually thought of you while I was doing my test, look down, see 250 or so, thinking "c'mon, pcad goes harder than this."

Now off to Vegas to undo whatever training I can undo in 5 days,
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Now off to Vegas to undo whatever training I can undo in 5 days,
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Have fun partying it up in Vegas. I'll be partying in my cave with the dozen or so papers I have to write.

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You should not be wasting your time with some silly liberal arts degree, they are useless. Unless you plan on going to get a doctorate, medical degree, law school, or become homeless.
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You should not be wasting your time with some silly liberal arts degree, they are useless. Unless you plan on going to get a doctorate, medical degree, law school, or become homeless.
I'm okay with wasting my time and sticking to my silly Molecular biology and biochemistry + science in society (philosophy of science+ history of science+ social/cultural practices of science) majors.
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Yeah, but what's your 5s number? My FTP might be ~100 watts higher, but I gauran-damn-tee your 5s number is more than 100 watts higher than my earth shaking 1200 watts...plus you can position yourself in the right places to make up for the lack of threshold, race smart, and pull out results.

That's what matters, not e-wang FTP measurement.
I have zero endurance right now. I believe I could come close to 1,300 5s if I geared right but my FTP probably isn't even 200. I hit 1,102 during a sprint on my Kurt Kinetic Pro and that was not really all out, but very hard.
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In a TT.

Not so much in a bunch sprint.
+1

I think I have run my first and last race on my powermeter setup training bike (the ancient Trek2100). After reviewing the Dolan race, there was nothing impressive at all about it for averages or even Normalized power. What it did show was i need to work on VO2 max and Sprints. Fortunately for me those workouts are coming up in my training program about now.

When I wasnt coasting (which was 30% of the race distance) I was making efforts at 120-140% (300+) of my FTP (250w) the rest of the time. Then there were the 900+ watt spikes from accelerating of the courses only corner. Nothing ever steady. Hammer and coast, hammer and coast. I got cooked but good in that race from those efforts.

The same thing goes for the team hammerfests. Those are harder than most of the races in this district. It's pretty bad when your confidence level is higher for a local crit than it is for a group ride. But like all things in life, practice practice practice. I get a little farther and faster every week. So its all good right?

I still havent had a proper sprint training workout yet. But I will have after Friday. Thats gonna hurt.
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What's your weight?

I'm sitting at 4.1w/kg right now.
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what's FTP anyway? I thought they were a florist.
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cdr have you been trying to improve your ftp?
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