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Old 04-30-08, 11:14 PM   #1
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1 month to race fitness? Is it possible?

So since November I have been writing my Masters thesis and have only put in 147 miles this year on the bike. I defended my thesis on Monday and it is time to hit the pedals hard. I am 20 lbs heavier than I was in November and not near in the same fitness level. Anyone have any intense riding plans that would get me somewhat suitable to race by June? (Not winning but not afraid of having a heart attack from being fat)

I basically need to do all of my base in a quick period of time and start building some fitness....ideally I'd like to be racing in somewhat decent form by the end of the season.

I upgraded to 4's at the end of the season last year and put in 375 hrs last year on the bike. I want to put atleast that many in by the end of the year this year and focus on being in great race shape by the end of next season. Any advice would be appreciated!
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Old 05-01-08, 02:22 AM   #2
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good luck with that... i'd try to take it easier if i were you.
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Old 05-01-08, 05:20 AM   #3
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I predict severe droppage. Is it that important to race in this particular race, when you should really be doing base training?
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don't dig yourself into a hole. ride, remind yourself why you enjoy riding, after a while do some group rides , then assess.

if all else fails, read this.
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Old 05-01-08, 06:34 AM   #5
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don't dig yourself into a hole. ride, remind yourself why you enjoy riding, after a while do some group rides , then assess.

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+1, you've basically done the equivalent of 1 week of training, a smallish week at that (147 mi.) while all of your competition has been doing that each week over that same time period. just ride, train intelligently, go ahead and enter your races to be in the "scene" and learn how to hang onto a pack when you're not fit - good lessons - but honestly, your season is toast.
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don't dig yourself into a hole. ride, remind yourself why you enjoy riding, after a while do some group rides , then assess.

if all else fails, read this.

great advice.

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Week One: just put in some miles. Do some fast pedal intervals, and some one legged drills.

Week Two: put in a little bit longer miles. Add some tempo intervals

Week Three: add some steady state intervals and a hard group ride.

Week Four: recovery week, back off just a bit.

Week Five: start racing, realizing you're not back to where you left off, but use the races for training.
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I predict severe droppage. Is it that important to race in this particular race, when you should really be doing base training?

No particular race....just want to race again. I understand this season is going to be a wash and I understand I will be dropped in EVERY race I do (which isn't much different than last season). I just wanted to build some fitness and wondered if anyone had some boot camp-esque type of training for quick fitness.

Thanks for your replies everyone.
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Old 05-01-08, 12:30 PM   #10
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Get you base miles in, atleast 4 to 6 weeks. Then you can begin working on SST rides till you can hang with the pack.
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Put in long hard sessions of 100+ miles or more at least 3 times a week.
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3 years and I am still not there. I don't know what you could accomplis in a month.
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Old 05-01-08, 01:32 PM   #13
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Put in long hard sessions of 100+ miles or more at least 3 times a week.
I recommend 200 miles or more, twice a day, starting today.
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I started training after the new year and was racing by Feb 3. Bummer weather(rain, cold, wind) and got dropped in the first race. Following week 5th. week after that 3rd.

It can be done.
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In my younger days I could do it on a Computrainer in 3 weeks. Now it takes a few months, several thousand miles in weather and road conditions that 90% of the weenies here would never consider tolerating, a major diet, getting my lungs sucked out in a few early races and and some Divine Intervention.

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eh, no.
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At a 20lb deficit from last year and that little riding, I imagine you are at least 3 months away from last years race form. If you bust ass and make riding the only goal in your life you might be 2 months away, but with a normal schedule I'd guess you have 4-5 months untill you are "there", your season is shot unless you want to race in September and October.
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Your season isn't shot unless you're racing Cat3 or above. Anything below that and you're basically just racing for experience, anyway. Just get out there and do the best you can. Racing when you aren't as strong as you'd like to be can help make you a smarter racer, too.
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Let us know how it goes Chris.....
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Just race. You can't do any worse than this poor slob.

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Skip base all together. Do TT intervals, lactate intervals and recovery rides. I'll have a consolation beer ready for you after lap 3.
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It ain't none gonna matter.

Just have fun.
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Your season isn't shot. Just pick a race or several to aim for in September. Skip the long base miles, but do plenty of tempo and sweet spot training for the next month or two, suffer through your first races, then add in your intensity in July/August and peak in September. Everyone else will be on the decline so it'll be a good chance to kick ass.
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Just race. You can't do any worse than this poor slob.
or me

Just take the approach that I am, don't try to rush it, just take each race as a stepping stone and learning experience leading to hopefully better results later in the season. I'll probably be OTB in the first lap next week and yanked off the course in embarrassment - which will drive me to work harder for the July and August road races. Put a pic of Pcad with his big hair on your stem too...it can't hurt.
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