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    Cramping?

    My training and diet have not changed any. I stay really hydrated throughout the day drinking over a gallon of water. But this morning on my race prep ride (short, easy, sweet) my calf muscles were cramping. Even now as I type this, I can feel them twitching. I haven't changed my cleats.

    Wait! I just thought of something: My SL1 is being sent off. I'm riding my Cannondale. What would my bike setup be in order to cause cramps in the calf muscles? Seat height? Fore/Aft?

    I may be racing a crit tomorrow and I don't want to be cramping.

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    Seat height may be too high, or you just aren't getting the right mix of electrolytes and nutrients.
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    Drinking a lot of plain water can wash out electrolytes. You may need to supplement with something like Sports Legs or some other electrolyte pill. Make sure that you dose yourself per the directions on the package or you may not get the effect you're after.
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    Good thinking there. I do drink a ton of water. Maybe I need to supplement something else. Thanks.
    And I'm going to check my seat height with my old measurements have saved somewhere.

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    Try taking postassium supplements or eating extra food high in potassium. Sometimes that helps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by substructure View Post
    I stay really hydrated throughout the day drinking over a gallon of water.
    This is the recipe for cramping. Pop an electrolyte tab or two into that water and you'll be fine:
    http://www.performancebike.com/shop/...slisearch=true

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    ^^^ I think you guys are right on this. I need to add a little something. Thanks guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by substructure View Post
    Good thinking there. I do drink a ton of water. Maybe I need to supplement something else. Thanks.
    And I'm going to check my seat height with my old measurements have saved somewhere.
    Too much water without added electrolytes is probably it.

    Some recent studies show many people are consuming too much water. Take a look at some of the more recent data.
    You're just trying to start an argument to show how smart you are.

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    I had the same issue maybe 4 weeks ago. It lasted about a week. I drank more water before my rides and ate lots of Bananas. It worked for me..

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    I started cramping last season too, unexplainably. I feel your pain. As far as hydration, I've switched to eLoad heat endurance formula. Its a Canadian product and you have to web order it. You may want to try a couple sample packs. The thing I like about it is it uses pharmeceudical grade dextrose for better absorption, as opposed to the crap in accelerade that resembles wet cement.

    Edit: Here's the link:

    http://www.medioncorp.com/hm/
    Last edited by orcanova; 05-02-08 at 09:07 AM.

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    You shouldn't need to pop any kind of electrolyte pills during the day (when you're not riding). You should be able to get these nutrients through diet. What are you eating during the day?

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    You also just started taking an antibiotic, could be related.

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    Quote Originally Posted by waterrockets View Post
    You shouldn't need to pop any kind of electrolyte pills during the day (when you're not riding). You should be able to get these nutrients through diet. What are you eating during the day?
    I eat regular food - small amounts 6 - 8 times while I'm at work. Today I will eat well in preparation for tomorrow's crit. Man, I hope my taint heals up for this. But, mostly protein bars, whole wheat cereals, pastas, nuts, peanut butter, bananas, and if there any in the house, an entire box of PopTarts.

    Oh, for lunch, me and the bike crew are eating Mexican.

    Plus, I supplement vitamins, minerals, and Omega 3,6, and 9.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enthalpic View Post
    You also just started taking an antibiotic, could be related.
    I was wondering. Could the Cipro cause this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by substructure View Post
    I eat regular food - small amounts 6 - 8 times while I'm at work. Today I will eat well in preparation for tomorrow's crit. Man, I hope my taint heals up for this. But, mostly protein bars, whole wheat cereals, pastas, nuts, peanut butter, bananas, and if there any in the house, an entire box of PopTarts.

    Oh, for lunch, me and the bike crew are eating Mexican.

    Plus, I supplement vitamins, minerals, and Omega 3,6, and 9.
    Yeah, electrolyte pills on top of that food aren't going to add any value.

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    Quote Originally Posted by waterrockets View Post
    Yeah, electrolyte pills on top of that food aren't going to add any value.
    Maybe I am flushing stuff out though. Do you think I need to add a tad bit of some sports drink to my diet during the day?

    Thank you BTW.

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    I had this problem last year. I started adding Hammer Nutrition's endurolytes to my drink and have not had a problem since. Like you, I think I was more on the over-hydrated side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by substructure View Post
    I was wondering. Could the Cipro cause this?

    Do you drink coffee or other caffeine containing products? Cipro increases your sensitivity to caffeine; and caffeine increases the risk of cramps. Just an idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enthalpic View Post
    Do you drink coffee or other caffeine containing products? Cipro increases your sensitivity to caffeine; and caffeine increases the risk of cramps. Just an idea.
    I do drink coffee. If I didn't people would die around me.

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    Cipro can also cause ligament and other soft tissue strains. It could most definitely be the culprit. I feel like crap if I do any hard effort on the bike taking Cipro. That and my stomach can't handle it either.

    Other less serious side effects are more likely to occur, such as:
    • nausea, vomiting;
    • dizziness or drowsiness;
    • blurred vision;
    • sleep problems (insomnia);
    • joint stiffness or muscle pain; or
    • increased sensitivity of the skin to sunlight.
    That said, as the temperatures rise this time of year, I generally have to increase my electrolyte intake. Calf cramps are usually where the problems start for me.

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    Add tomatoes, citrus, and spinach/kale to your diet. And Guava. Guava is supposed to be very high in potassium.

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    I have to salt obsessively to keep my body happy. I probably eat about 5-6 times the RDA for sodium when riding a good amount. And less and I get headaches, a lot less and I get cramps.
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    Not related to electrolytes but I find it hard to believe that people have to supplement omega 6s.

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    I cramped for the first time in a race last weekend in a strange spot - my left butt cheek. I was watching tv later that day and just happened to look over at my bike to notice that the nose of the saddle was just a tiny bit higher than usual. Fixed it and set out the next morning to set a PR up Palomar Mountain. Weird.
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