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Old 05-20-08, 10:42 PM
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The guy on the street says bike racers look like **** in their spandex. Really, how could this be a masculine sport?

Ironically, at least one racer per day in a grand tour goes down at 30+ mph and breaks a bone or two. That guy will then conjure up all his strength and try to beat the time cutoff. Show me another sport where the athletes break bones with the regularity seen in prof. bike racing AND try to continue?

Did anyone read Frishkorn's article on Velonews about the stream of consciousness of a prof. bike racer during a long stage race? At the end of this one particular flat stage Will, wrote this;
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"Fxcxk shjjjlkt jeeeeebus!!!! This is insane! Nothing like a tailwind run-in and fresh legs all around. This is like a video game, but with consequences. SHIIIIIIIererwoekjrojtT. That was way too close, I should back off a bit, no need to take these risks. Meatball’s lookin good. CORNER — comin' in HOT. FkljoijK, wrong side of the roundabout. Heh … right side of the roundabout. Just gained a free 30 spots. Sweet. 1k to go. This run-in is CRAZY. We’re doing 80k an hour, glad I’m not fighting for the sprint. Man I hope the sprinters don’t crash, we’d all stack right into ‘em. Hope no gaps open in the field. Nah, too fast. There’s the line! DONE!"
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Man that's sketch. Your life is literally on the line. That makes this a tough ass sport (athletic requirements aside). That is all.

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Yeah.... and if you're the world champion you get to wear a pretty rainbow
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That's what scares me a ton though, if the pros crash a ton, what does that say about amateur racers?

Or do amateurs *not* crash as much because their job isn't on the line?
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Originally Posted by ridethecliche

Or do amateurs *not* crash as much because their job isn't on the line?
Nope. They crash plenty.
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Originally Posted by geneman
Show me another sport where the athletes break bones with the regularity seen in prof. bike racing AND try to continue?
Only answering because you asked. Ice Hockey. Football. Ronnie Lott had part of his finger amputated during a game so he could continue playing. I have loads of respect for road racers - I don't like going down at 20 mph I'm slow), but there are other sports where playing injured happens quite frequently. Peter Forsberg has done it for the past three years.
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Superbike racers often race with bones that were broken from a previous crash. Ankles, wrists, fingers, etc.

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Originally Posted by ridethecliche
That's what scares me a ton though, if the pros crash a ton, what does that say about amateur racers?

Or do amateurs *not* crash as much because their job isn't on the line?
It seems like you need a lesson in pass/fail racing. Channeling the wisdom of the snob here..

Originally Posted by bikesnobnyc
Basically, if you’ve never won a race before, you’re not suddenly going to start winning them now. So settle down, pick a wheel to follow, and stay out of trouble.

Unfortunately, though, too many people fail to realize this, especially in the lower categories, where everybody stupidly sees him-or herself as a potential winner. When everyone’s going for the podium the result is a pile-up. It becomes like some moronic slapstick routine where eight people bend down to pick up the same $100 bill and just end up bashing their heads together as a gentle breeze carries the money down the street.

The reason the higher categories generally see fewer crashes is not because they’ve acquired better riding skills over the years; rather, it’s because higher-category riders have been psychically beaten into submission. Their wills have been broken, they’ve admitted to themselves that they don’t have a chance, and they ride accordingly. In real life, if more than like 50% of the country believes it should be running it, you’re going to have a civil war. In a race, if more than half the field thinks it can win you can expect carnage on wheels. So don't be part of the problem.
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Old 05-21-08, 05:45 AM
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Originally Posted by geneman
The guy on the street says bike racers look like **** in their spandex. Really, how could this be a masculine sport?

Ironically, at least one racer per day in a grand tour goes down at 30+ mph and breaks a bone or two. That guy will then conjure up all his strength and try to beat the time cutoff. Show me another sport where the athletes break bones with the regularity seen in prof. bike racing AND try to continue?

Did anyone read Frishkorn's article on Velonews about the stream of consciousness of a prof. bike racer during a long stage race? At the end of this one particular flat stage Will, wrote this;
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"Fxcxk shjjjlkt jeeeeebus!!!! This is insane! Nothing like a tailwind run-in and fresh legs all around. This is like a video game, but with consequences. SHIIIIIIIererwoekjrojtT. That was way too close, I should back off a bit, no need to take these risks. Meatball’s lookin good. CORNER — comin' in HOT. FkljoijK, wrong side of the roundabout. Heh … right side of the roundabout. Just gained a free 30 spots. Sweet. 1k to go. This run-in is CRAZY. We’re doing 80k an hour, glad I’m not fighting for the sprint. Man I hope the sprinters don’t crash, we’d all stack right into ‘em. Hope no gaps open in the field. Nah, too fast. There’s the line! DONE!"
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Man that's sketch. Your life is literally on the line. That makes this a tough ass sport (athletic requirements aside). That is all.

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Here lies the crux of the matter:

Your neighbor is in the US.

The GT racer is in Europe.

Everyone knows that most Americans struggle with irony, where as most Europeans do not.
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Honestly, these people leave me with the notion that being gay makes someone physically weak. No, true irony is that the average amateur race has enough excess testosterone to power a small city. Plenty of homophobia to go around in bike racing, too. Apparently teh man love is a deadly challenge to fragile, competition-driving masculinity. Or something. It's pathetic, but there it is.

See, there's at least one thing I don't love about this sport .
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These guys seem to have no problem with a little man love.





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Originally Posted by Az B
Superbike racers often race with bones that were broken from a previous crash. Ankles, wrists, fingers, etc.

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Old 05-21-08, 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by ridethecliche
That's what scares me a ton though, if the pros crash a ton, what does that say about amateur racers?

Or do amateurs *not* crash as much because their job isn't on the line?
We crash all the time just that we don't generally have 400 cameras there to catch it. Every race I've been in this year has had a crash somewhere in the field.
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Originally Posted by joecool2727
These guys seem to have no problem with a little man love.





They are European men. European men can handle the idea of a little bit of physical closeness. Your typical American amateur racer-man would flip his **** if his teammates tried to have a pillow fight with him, I'm sure.
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This is America's idea of tough guys who deal with lots of broken bones.

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Old 05-21-08, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by rizz
We crash all the time just that we don't generally have 400 cameras there to catch it. Every race I've been in this year has had a crash somewhere in the field.
Yeah me too...
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