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Old 05-29-08, 02:15 PM   #1
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Open-Pro's End All Be All For Crits?

I'm training on an 8 speed RSX (hopefully race DA 7400 8 speed) but its a Mavic CXP 10 tubular (I think) rim and should probably replace them; being more than 10 years old and all.

So, are Open-Pro's pretty much the be-all end-all of crit rims that aren't carbon (budget)? I really, REALLY want to try a set of American Classic Sprint 350's but the budget won't allow it and it's hard to find on EBay for a decent price in silver (black? meh).

I've though of nabbing some old DA hubs and lacing them to alu rims but don't which rims to go with other than the much heralded (and sometimes overrated) Open-Pro's. The only other's I can think to try are Velocity Aero's or Aerohead's. I've been dying to try Aero's because they look so damn neat but Aerohead's are probably lighter and better.

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EDIT: American Classic Micro 58 front hubs laced to silver Aero's with American Classic 205 rear hubs laced to silver Aero's would RULE! But 205 hubs cost $200 alone.

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Old 05-29-08, 02:18 PM   #2
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I wouldn't say they're the end-all-be-all. There are plenty of great rims out there.
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Open Pro's are fine of course, but I specifically avoid using mine in crit's. Fact is, there are a lot of better choices for rims IMO, but I got the cheapo wheels for less than I could source the Record hubs they were built on.

The Aeroheads are a solid choice.
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or this. pretty similar to the open pro.

http://www.dtswiss.com/Products/Comp...gle-black.aspx
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or this. pretty similar to the open pro.

http://www.dtswiss.com/Products/Comp...gle-black.aspx
I need silver rims with removable decals...
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I would never call a clincher rims end all be all for crit racing.
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I would never call a clincher rims end all be all for crit racing.
Tubular's for crits then eh? I guess that makes sense, what with all the turns and all.
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Tubular's for crits then eh? I guess that makes sense, what with all the turns and all.
Tubulars are great for crits, especially if you flat. If your rims aren't worn out they'd be just as good or better than the OP's.
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Of course aluminum rims for tubulars are becoming something of a novelty these days.
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As far as the Open Pro's, they are the end all be all common and cheap wheels. What else really has the same value as open pros, ultegra hubs and dt swiss competition spokes for only a little over $200 shipped? I love mine and they're dirt cheap.

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Mavic reflex tubular rims are only 375g, so you can build a very nice light set of tubies for a few hundred.
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Open Pros aren't much of an upgrade from anything, as far as the rim is concerned.

I've built a bunch of them. I prefer Velocity rims these days. They're at least as good as Open Pros or DT 1.1s, and cost 30-40% less.

The Niobium 30s deserve an honorable mention. While they are a touch heavier than Aeroheads, they are much lighter than Deep Vs, and just as strong. They cost the same as Open Pros, and if someone forced me to spend $70 on a rim, I'd get the Niobium. I built a set around a PowerTap and an H1, and those wheels are SWEEET.
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but its a Mavic CXP 10 tubular (I think) rim
You think it's a tubular, or you think it's a CXP-10?
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Open Pros aren't much of an upgrade from anything, as far as the rim is concerned.

I've built a bunch of them. I prefer Velocity rims these days. They're at least as good as Open Pros or DT 1.1s, and cost 30-40% less.

The Niobium 30s deserve an honorable mention. While they are a touch heavier than Aeroheads, they are much lighter than Deep Vs, and just as strong. They cost the same as Open Pros, and if someone forced me to spend $70 on a rim, I'd get the Niobium. I built a set around a PowerTap and an H1, and those wheels are SWEEET.
+1 on Velocity's and Niobiums. I build most of my wheels with velocity because they are cheap and really well built. I am going to try out the Niobium 30s for my next build
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Niobium 30s? Website?

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http://www.interlocracing.com/rims.html

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http://www.oddsandendos.com/main.sc

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I have a set of Niobium 30's with H1's, they are sweeeeeeet!!
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Open Pros aren't much of an upgrade from anything, as far as the rim is concerned.

I've built a bunch of them. I prefer Velocity rims these days. They're at least as good as Open Pros or DT 1.1s, and cost 30-40% less.

The Niobium 30s deserve an honorable mention. While they are a touch heavier than Aeroheads, they are much lighter than Deep Vs, and just as strong. They cost the same as Open Pros, and if someone forced me to spend $70 on a rim, I'd get the Niobium. I built a set around a PowerTap and an H1, and those wheels are SWEEET.
I'm still waiting to get some extra money one of these days so I can source some new hubs and have you rebuild my Niobium 30's (I haven't forgotten)

*EDIT* I bought some boat anchors this past winter....32H Open Pros laced to Ultegra hubs with some amazingly thick spokes....for an everyday training wheel, and they are decent. Nice and cushy ride, and I don't really have any complaints. They don't look as cool as some other wheelsets out there, but for a few hundred bucks and a solid wheelset to train on and beat the crap out of, it's a good deal.

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I'm still waiting to get some extra money one of these days so I can source some new hubs and have you rebuild my Niobium 30's (I haven't forgotten)

*EDIT* I bought some boat anchors this past winter....32H Open Pros laced to Ultegra hubs with some amazingly thick spokes....for an everyday training wheel, and they are decent. Nice and cushy ride, and I don't really have any complaints. They don't look as cool as some other wheelsets out there, but for a few hundred bucks and a solid wheelset to train on and beat the crap out of, it's a good deal.
I'm sitting in my rocker, twirling my spoke wrench... polishing my TM-1 with my breath and a corner of my shirt...
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Regarding Niobiums, they are made by Kinlin, and the 30s are identical to the Kinlin XR-300. They can be purchased through Alchemy Bicycle Works for $60 each.
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Regarding Niobiums, they are made by Kinlin, and the 30s are identical to the Kinlin XR-300. They can be purchased through Alchemy Bicycle Works for $60 each.
Fairwheel has em, too. Next winter I might just put those on my Record hubs and dispose of my Open Pro rims.
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really only good because when you wreck one it only coss you 150 instead of the value of much better wheel. Open pros are over rated IMHO
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Open Pros aren't much of an upgrade from anything, as far as the rim is concerned.

I've built a bunch of them. I prefer Velocity rims these days. They're at least as good as Open Pros or DT 1.1s, and cost 30-40% less.
Just a nod on the DT's. I've got 8 months of training on them laced to Record hubs, including a bunch of gravel road rides. I picture a spoke wrench in my mind to true them. Most solid wheels I've ever owned.
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