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Old 06-09-08, 08:15 PM   #26
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According to the responses, I am an elitist who will keep people from the sport or I am jealous because I can't afford fancy equipment and am on a small and/or crappy team. Or perhaps I am both: an impoverished elitist?
I will still wave to you.
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Old 06-09-08, 08:23 PM   #27
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Yeah summers off must be hard for a racer to deal with.

What do you get 13-14weeks/year vacation?
It's funny because I thought it would work out perfectly, but I get out for Summer vacation just in time for the last few races of the season. When I was racing 12 years ago, the season went much later, usually into October.

And yes, I count 12 weeks of vacation. 9 for the Summer (students get 10), 2 in the Winter, and 1 in the Spring. I usually teach Summer School, though. It almost justifies the low salary despite the outrageous amount of training they require. I could be a lawyer or physician by now!

edit: Forgot to add that when I first started teaching, it was at a year round school and my position didn't go on vacation. Just Winter break for 2 weeks. Kinda sucked, but the extra $$$ helped pay for my wedding that year.
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Old 06-09-08, 08:27 PM   #28
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Masters races are the friggin' neutron bomb of bike shows. Seriously porno bike emporiums. Couple of years ago dude showed up for the 30's (here our Masters are 30 and up) on the BMC road machine with the full Campy tubulars, record build, and a Swiss national champions jersey, Team Phonak. Our Masters are Aussie Pursuit so right from the gun the 30's are about 8, 9 minutes back so we usually agree to paceline and hammer right from the start. So I'm behind Team Phonak and after 200 metres a huge gap opens in front of him and I look at him, and he's giving me the 'wave through' sign.

Heck though I could care less, he was having a great time. You know, it's just about fun at our level. No one is paying me to do this, and if I suck and am OTB in a C div club race on a Wilier Le Roi Record Bora blah blah blah so what?

It ain't like the guy who owns a Maserati but doesn't know how to handle it. I find these dudes on the sweet rides are usually OTB and don't imperil anyone; it's the guy on the cheap steel bike who's new to the sport, super-strong, hairy-legged, squirrely as hell -- that's the guy that's gonna be a problem.

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Old 06-09-08, 08:33 PM   #29
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But in the end, does it really matter who is riding what and how they do? Really? It really bothers you what others spend thir money on?

Get over it, unless it directly affects you.
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it's the guy on the cheap steel bike who's new to the sport, super-strong, hairy-legged, squirrely as hell -- that's the guy that's gonna be a problem.

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That guy almost took me out in a race last weekend. He even rubbed my $$$$ carbon wheels.
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Old 06-09-08, 08:51 PM   #31
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I don't understand why the OP doesn't just go to the front and drope the hammar?

You don't see anyone else's bike, you're on the podium in front of team '30CAT5's and if people are braking on a descent it's your fault.

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...you show up for a Cat 5 race on a protour-caliber bike. It looks a little silly if you actually win, and it looks amazingly silly if you don't make it to the podium. Wait until upgrading before buying any piece of equipment with a decal that says "Zipp," "Record," or "Bora Ultra."

...you are on a team that comprises almost half the field in a road race and yet can't put a single rider on the podium. If you are on a team, learn and apply some team tactics; otherwise, you are merely a bunch of people in matching jerseys.

...you sit mid-pack and complain about the slow pace, about having to feather your brakes on the descents, etc. Please understand that a bike race isn't about riding fast -- it's about crossing the finish line first.

If I think of any more silly things I saw this past weekend, I'll let you know.
Race and beat them. That way you can brag to your friends and teammates how you beat a guy on a bike that cost three times than yours.

If you can't beat them then you can use the excuse that they beat you cause they're on a more expensive bike(which is a pretty lame excuse)
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Old 06-09-08, 09:10 PM   #33
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uh, if you dont make it to the podium?? in santa cruz i think half the cat 5 field rides pro level gear!!
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Old 06-09-08, 09:16 PM   #34
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...you show up for a Cat 5 race on a protour-caliber bike. It looks a little silly if you actually win, and it looks amazingly silly if you don't make it to the podium. Wait until upgrading before buying any piece of equipment with a decal that says "Zipp," "Record," or "Bora Ultra."

...you are on a team that comprises almost half the field in a road race and yet can't put a single rider on the podium. If you are on a team, learn and apply some team tactics; otherwise, you are merely a bunch of people in matching jerseys.

...you sit mid-pack and complain about the slow pace, about having to feather your brakes on the descents, etc. Please understand that a bike race isn't about riding fast -- it's about crossing the finish line first.

If I think of any more silly things I saw this past weekend, I'll let you know.
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Old 06-10-08, 04:30 AM   #35
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According to the responses, I am an elitist who will keep people from the sport or I am jealous because I can't afford fancy equipment and am on a small and/or crappy team. Or perhaps I am both: an impoverished elitist? Yeah, that makes sense.
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It's funny just how much you folks can glean about me from a little post. 'Course, you're all incorrect, but I won't trouble you with facts.

And by the way, I didn't quote anything from The Rider, TheJackMove. Perhaps you should actually look something up before accusing anyone of plagiarism.
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Old 06-10-08, 08:33 AM   #36
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Show me a CAT 5 thats riding a 5,000 dollar bike slow and ill show you 10 others that are riding the same bike and are fast.....


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Old 06-10-08, 08:35 AM   #37
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Old 06-10-08, 08:40 AM   #38
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...you show up for a Cat 5 race on a protour-caliber bike. It looks a little silly if you actually win, and it looks amazingly silly if you don't make it to the podium. Wait until upgrading before buying any piece of equipment with a decal that says "Zipp," "Record," or "Bora Ultra."
I disagree. They're paying for the kit that keeps the research going and eventually will trickle down. And as someone else noted, at least they're properly using it for what it's meant to be used for - better than taking a 'Just Like Lance! ' ride out on the leisure path with the kiddies or just leaving it hung up in the garage (though I like that too for the used-purchase opportunities!). I also really enjoy crushing carbon-fibre souls on my 531 steel race rig.


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...you are on a team that comprises almost half the field in a road race and yet can't put a single rider on the podium. If you are on a team, learn and apply some team tactics; otherwise, you are merely a bunch of people in matching jerseys.
It happens. Maybe there were three really impressive riders on other teams. And if we're still talking about Cat 5, they probably are a bunch of people in matching jerseys - Cat 5 is for learning.
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Race and beat them. That way you can brag to your friends and teammates how you beat a guy on a bike that cost three times than yours.

If you can't beat them then you can use the excuse that they beat you cause they're on a more expensive bike(which is a pretty lame excuse)
A friend has the theory that the rules should be such that if you beat someone on a bike more than five times the value of your own, you should get to take his wheels.
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Yup, must've hit a whole bunch of nerves.

According to the responses, I am an elitist who will keep people from the sport or I am jealous because I can't afford fancy equipment and am on a small and/or crappy team. Or perhaps I am both: an impoverished elitist? Yeah, that makes sense. It's funny just how much you folks can glean about me from a little post. 'Course, you're all incorrect, but I won't trouble you with facts.

And by the way, I didn't quote anything from The Rider, TheJackMove. Perhaps you should actually look something up before accusing anyone of plagiarism.
Meh. It's BikeForums banter. Don't let it get to you. None of it is worth stressing over.
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I don't race to look anything...so if you think I look silly, well...don't talk to me at a race, I won't ever have time for you.

edit: ...oh, I'm a 5, I ride a $600 road bike. However, I just bought a SystemSix frame and by the end of the season I hope to be "that guy" because I am lucky enough to and I earn enough.
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Old 06-10-08, 11:23 AM   #42
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Hey I could care less if C2 wants to judge people on appearance, that's his prerogative. I'm just sick of these stupid threads, helmet pro/con, carbon is bad, et al.
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Hey I could care less if C2 wants to judge people on appearance, that's his prerogative. I'm just sick of these stupid threads, helmet pro/con, carbon is bad, et al.

So, Obama or McCain? And is it a conspiracy that "Obama" isn't in the Firefox dictionary?
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So, Obama or McCain? And is it a conspiracy that "Obama" isn't in the Firefox dictionary?
Now we can have a real flame war!
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I don't even race, but If I could afford a full carbon bike with the bells and whistles, I would buy one. I could care less if someone who rides slow has a $10k bike. All I care about, is that you're out there giving it your all.
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