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Old 07-18-08, 07:24 AM   #1
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Surprise Piepoli

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News just in: The Saunier Duval has fired both Riccardo Ricco and Leonardo Piepoli for "doping practices."

There had been rumours that another rider tested positive for the same substance, CERA. While this is yet to be confirmed, it is clear that the team has serious doubts about the stage 10 winner.

The company is also understood to be considering stopping its sponsorship of the team.

Current race situation
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Old 07-18-08, 07:26 AM   #2
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Where is the surprise?
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he was shady at last years giro too
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So all you guys who said the dopers were one step ahead of the testers were right. Now the question remains; will the advantage ever move towards the testers? I fear the answer is no.
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Old 07-18-08, 07:37 AM   #5
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Before they were three or four steps ahead. Now they are only one step ahead. To me, it kinda looks like the advantage is beginning to moving toward the testers.
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Old 07-18-08, 07:37 AM   #6
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how many of the dopers are spanish or on spanish teams? just wondering.
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Old 07-18-08, 08:22 AM   #7
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Before they were three or four steps ahead. Now they are only one step ahead. To me, it kinda looks like the advantage is beginning to moving toward the testers.
The key seems to be WADA working with the drug companies. That appears to be what happened here.
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I can't find anything that says Piepoli failed a test, says he was fired for ethical reasons, it could be doping sure, but I thought we didn't jump to conclusions here.
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well it says he was fired for "doping practices" so they obviously know something about him doping regardless if he failed a test or not.
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well it says he was fired for "doping practices" so they obviously know something about him doping regardless if he failed a test or not.
Piepoli, the winner of stage 10 to Hautacam, is not reported to have failed a drugs test, but the team decided to fire him after conducting an internal investigation. "[Gianetti] did a personal investigation and consequently lost faith in Riccò but also in Piepoli because of a violation of the team's ethics code," read a team statement.

from the same article, once again I'm not saying he did not dope, just saying he never failed a test as of yet. Maybe he was fired for knowing about Ricco's doping.
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perhaps... maybe we will find out more later.
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I can't find anything that says Piepoli failed a test, says he was fired for ethical reasons, it could be doping sure, but I thought we didn't jump to conclusions here.
It may yet come out...the test Ricco failed and they drug him away yesterday for was on Stage 4. The tests aren't complete the day the sample is taken.
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Piepoli, the winner of stage 10 to Hautacam, is not reported to have failed a drugs test, but the team decided to fire him after conducting an internal investigation. "[Gianetti] did a personal investigation and consequently lost faith in Riccò but also in Piepoli because of a violation of the team's ethics code," read a team statement.

from the same article, once again I'm not saying he did not dope, just saying he never failed a test as of yet. Maybe he was fired for knowing about Ricco's doping.
My guess is he admitted to Gianetti to using the same stuff Ricco was on and since he won a stage also his time was coming.
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My guess is he admitted to Gianetti to using the same stuff Ricco was on and since he won a stage also his time was coming.
I heard the cops raided his house too.

Let's see... Beltrán, Dueñas, Riccò, and Piepoli... that makes...

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I heard the cops raided his house too.

Let's see... Beltrán, Dueñas, Riccò, and Piepoli... that makes...

You have to wonder if Cav is next. 4 stages, 2 in a row. HGH, Test?
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I heard the cops raided his house too.

Let's see... Beltrán, Dueñas, Riccò, and Piepoli... that makes...


Thanks for the spoiler . . .
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Thanks for the spoiler . . .
If you don't want to read info about the TdF, why are you reading an active thread about the TdF?
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If you don't want to read info about the TdF, why are you reading an active thread about the TdF?
Because people in this forum usually aren't big enough idiots to post a spoiler!!
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because up until the picture was posted, there was no indication of what happened today in this thread. this thread has nothing to do with who won today, and posting the pic without a spoiler warning is bad form.
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Jesus, if people are so worried about spoilers, don't read the forums!
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Because people in this forum usually aren't big enough idiots to post a spoiler!!
Wasn't me, chief.


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because up until the picture was posted, there was no indication of what happened today in this thread. this thread has nothing to do with who won today, and posting the pic without a spoiler warning is bad form.
See above. Anyway, with the long history of spoilers that have been posted here and on the roadie forum, anyone not wanting to see one surely would know better than to read a thread about the TdF. Or they just like to whine about it, and point fingers. Whatever.
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If you don't want to read info about the TdF, why are you reading an active thread about the TdF?
You know, there is actually an entire TdF forum.

http://www.bikeforums.net/forumdispl...ysprune=&f=217
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You know, there is actually an entire TdF forum.

http://www.bikeforums.net/forumdispl...ysprune=&f=217
Well aware. What's your point? Regardless of location, this particular thread is about doping (or suspicion of doping) in the TdF. If you don't like it, ask a mod to move it.
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