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    unaangalia nini? baiskeli's Avatar
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    First Kenyan in the TDF

    Chris Froome (Barloworld).

    Currently 92nd

    That is all

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    too bad he doesn't have a sponsor anymore.
    You could fall off a cliff and die.
    You could get lost and die.
    You could hit a tree and die.
    OR YOU COULD STAY HOME AND FALL OFF THE COUCH AND DIE.

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    OH NO! You ruined everything for me! There's a TdF thread for a reason!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrimsonKarter21 View Post
    OH NO! You ruined everything for me! There's a TdF thread for a reason!!!
    How does the knowledge that Barloworld is pulling its sponsorship impact your enjoyment of the Tour de France?

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    British Ancestry!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by patentcad View Post
    How does the knowledge that Barloworld is pulling its sponsorship impact your enjoyment of the Tour de France?
    How do the words "You ruined everything for me" not ring a sarcasm bell?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrimsonKarter21 View Post
    How do the words "You ruined everything for me" not ring a sarcasm bell?
    You would do well to leave the standup to Pcad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tbrown524 View Post
    British Ancestry!!!
    Kenyan by birth. Curiously, the TDF web site has the Kenyan flag next to his name though I was under the impression that he was no longer racing under a Kenyan Cycling Federation License but his British license.

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    I was just wondering today (not kidding) why we don't see some country like Kenya crank out some killer climbers. They've got all these great endurance athletes who weigh next to nothing. I bet if you consistently took the guys who didn't quite make it as marathoners and gave them crappy bikes with sora and 28mm tires, they'd be spanking people in the hills in no time.
    “Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm." (Churchill)

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    He's just some white dude.
    "When once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the earth with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been, and there you will always long to return." - Leonardo daVinci

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpongeDad View Post
    I was just wondering today (not kidding) why we don't see some country like Kenya crank out some killer climbers. They've got all these great endurance athletes who weigh next to nothing. I bet if you consistently took the guys who didn't quite make it as marathoners and gave them crappy bikes with sora and 28mm tires, they'd be spanking people in the hills in no time.
    Shoes are much cheaper than bikes. The usual reason why you don't see many cyclist from Third World countries or even cyclist from lower income areas in the US.
    "Meyrueis, Lozere, June 26, 1977. Hot and overcast. I take my gear out of the car and put my bike together. Tourists and locals are watching from sidewalk cafes. Non-racers. The emptiness of those lives shocks me."

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpongeDad View Post
    I was just wondering today (not kidding) why we don't see some country like Kenya crank out some killer climbers. They've got all these great endurance athletes who weigh next to nothing. I bet if you consistently took the guys who didn't quite make it as marathoners and gave them crappy bikes with sora and 28mm tires, they'd be spanking people in the hills in no time.
    I seem to recall that someone tried this, and found that despite the insane VO2 maxes, the Kenyans were just not producing the watts necessary to hang on the climbs, and especially on the flats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by justinb View Post
    I seem to recall that someone tried this, and found that despite the insane VO2 maxes, the Kenyans were just not producing the watts necessary to hang on the climbs, and especially on the flats.
    "They" also tried it with XC skiing...which was a complete and utter failure.

    There is more to cycling than a VO2 max (which is, you guessed it, dependent on mass) and your body mass.

    That body type simply doesn't produce enough power.
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    How do you find what countries have been represented in TDF so far?

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    Reminds me of an article...
    http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.com/2008.../27-marathons/ (check out the one about bicycles)
    "Also worth nothing, more competitive white people prefer triathlons because Kenyans can’t afford $10,000 specialty bicycles."

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    AFAIK, Chris's grandparents were from the UK, and he grew up in South Africa, he took a British Cycling license this year (UCI license number - GBR19850520). Maybe he's after a place on the GB Nat pro team mooted for 2010? Which after Barloworld packing it in looks like a good move.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chucklehead View Post
    He's just some white dude.
    And Kenyans are black, white, indian etc (I can't remember the exact ratio, but I think it is majority black and then indian and then white)

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    Quote Originally Posted by RubenX View Post
    How do you find what countries have been represented in TDF so far?
    I looked at the full standings on the Letour.com web site and there is a flag next to each name. But there probably is a better way.

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    Nah, it's a passport thing. You try getting visas with a Kenyan passport! It's much easier if you are British. E.g. all of the EU just let's you in with no fuss, except when you try to go home, when there is a whole song and dance because we opted out of the Schengen agreement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpongeDad View Post
    I was just wondering today (not kidding) why we don't see some country like Kenya crank out some killer climbers. They've got all these great endurance athletes who weigh next to nothing. I bet if you consistently took the guys who didn't quite make it as marathoners and gave them crappy bikes with sora and 28mm tires, they'd be spanking people in the hills in no time.

    Racist post of the day!


    You do know that most of those Kenyan runners are doped to the gills dont you?
    Please remember that all statements unless quoted, are strictly my opinion of what happened. That there are as many opinions as there are spectators attending. I just choose to publish mine on this forum. And would NEVER intend to purposely hurt or discredit any other cyclist.... With that said... HTFU!

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    Quote Originally Posted by acorn_user View Post
    Nah, it's a passport thing. You try getting visas with a Kenyan passport! It's much easier if you are British. E.g. all of the EU just let's you in with no fuss, except when you try to go home, when there is a whole song and dance because we opted out of the Schengen agreement.
    Doh! I should have thought of that. Thats the most obvious explanation

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    Quote Originally Posted by wfrogge View Post
    Racist post of the day!


    You do know that most of those Kenyan runners are doped to the gills dont you?
    They have gills?

    You learn something new every day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hobartlemagne View Post
    They have gills?

    You learn something new every day.
    Got to get to this Kenya place one of these days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hobartlemagne View Post
    They have gills?

    You learn something new every day.

    Guessing that when somebody asks you to drop the hammer you look around for one to drop?
    Please remember that all statements unless quoted, are strictly my opinion of what happened. That there are as many opinions as there are spectators attending. I just choose to publish mine on this forum. And would NEVER intend to purposely hurt or discredit any other cyclist.... With that said... HTFU!

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    Quote Originally Posted by wfrogge View Post
    Racist post of the day!
    Just stop it will you?

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