Apples & Oranges: What golf handicap = Cat 3 racer?
08-05-08, 11:13 AM
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Apples & Oranges: What golf handicap = Cat 3 racer?
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08-05-08, 11:14 AM
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So does Cat 1 = scratch?
08-05-08, 11:25 AM
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I've explained this to golf buddies from time to time like this.
Cat 4 = 10+
Cat 3 = mid to high single digit
Cat 2 = low to mid single digit
Cat 1 = scratch or smaller club/teaching pro
Domestic pro on small team = Asian or European tour mid pack golfer
Domestic pro on larger team = European tour golfer
European pro = PGA Tour
Guys you've heard of = top professionals (woods, els, mickelson, etc.)
Cat 4 = 10+
Cat 3 = mid to high single digit
Cat 2 = low to mid single digit
Cat 1 = scratch or smaller club/teaching pro
Domestic pro on small team = Asian or European tour mid pack golfer
Domestic pro on larger team = European tour golfer
European pro = PGA Tour
Guys you've heard of = top professionals (woods, els, mickelson, etc.)
08-05-08, 11:40 AM
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08-05-08, 11:42 AM
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Armstrong is obviously a top pro. I'm just saying Woods is the all time great, not just 'a guy you've heard of.' He's the golf equivalent of Merckx.
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08-05-08, 12:16 PM
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That makes my own Velo Handicap +30. And Chipcom's is + google (the number, not the search engine).
08-05-08, 12:30 PM
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I had a similar conversation recently comparing rock climbing ability to bike racers.
A climber that can climb 5.12 sport routes clean, is about equivalent to a Cat 2 racer.
I shot a 45 on a par 3 9-hole course. Does that put me at Cat 5 or the guy that rides his bike to work due to too many DUIs?
A climber that can climb 5.12 sport routes clean, is about equivalent to a Cat 2 racer.
I shot a 45 on a par 3 9-hole course. Does that put me at Cat 5 or the guy that rides his bike to work due to too many DUIs?
08-05-08, 12:54 PM
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I had a similar conversation recently comparing rock climbing ability to bike racers.
A climber that can climb 5.12 sport routes clean, is about equivalent to a Cat 2 racer.
I shot a 45 on a par 3 9-hole course. Does that put me at Cat 5 or the guy that rides his bike to work due to too many DUIs?
A climber that can climb 5.12 sport routes clean, is about equivalent to a Cat 2 racer.
I shot a 45 on a par 3 9-hole course. Does that put me at Cat 5 or the guy that rides his bike to work due to too many DUIs?
somebody get WFAN on the line, we have a sports talk radio quality thread going here!
08-05-08, 01:43 PM
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08-05-08, 01:59 PM
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Ummm, yeah you didn't fix anything. It has nothing to do with how hard a sport is. Lance simply didn't have the same level of dominance that Tiger has, and no where near the dominance over an extended period of time that Tiger has or will continue to have.
08-06-08, 03:22 AM
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Lower category racing is about the equivalent to the recreational golfer that can shoot a good score, probably does not know all the rules and does not count all his strokes...and I don't mean cheating, but they simply do not know how to penalize themselves, make the proper drops when they hit into a water hazard, unplayable lies etc...nobody wants to take "stroke and distance" on a Saturday afternoon on a busy public golf course.
Tournament golf is a whole different arena. Guys that supposedly shoot low 80's suddenly balloon up to big numbers. Courses are tougher, they get penalized for making incorrect drops when needed, etc.
Cat 1 road racing is tournament golf. Lower category crits that last less than an hour are like muni nine hole rounds.
Tournament golf is a whole different arena. Guys that supposedly shoot low 80's suddenly balloon up to big numbers. Courses are tougher, they get penalized for making incorrect drops when needed, etc.
Cat 1 road racing is tournament golf. Lower category crits that last less than an hour are like muni nine hole rounds.
08-06-08, 03:59 AM
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Besides. It's friggin GOLF. I mean, who cares? And if they do, why?
08-06-08, 04:11 AM
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08-06-08, 05:00 AM
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Golf is for Wussy.
08-06-08, 05:56 AM
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Lower category racing is about the equivalent to the recreational golfer that can shoot a good score, probably does not know all the rules and does not count all his strokes...and I don't mean cheating, but they simply do not know how to penalize themselves, make the proper drops when they hit into a water hazard, unplayable lies etc...nobody wants to take "stroke and distance" on a Saturday afternoon on a busy public golf course.
Tournament golf is a whole different arena. Guys that supposedly shoot low 80's suddenly balloon up to big numbers. Courses are tougher, they get penalized for making incorrect drops when needed, etc.
Cat 1 road racing is tournament golf. Lower category crits that last less than an hour are like muni nine hole rounds.
Tournament golf is a whole different arena. Guys that supposedly shoot low 80's suddenly balloon up to big numbers. Courses are tougher, they get penalized for making incorrect drops when needed, etc.
Cat 1 road racing is tournament golf. Lower category crits that last less than an hour are like muni nine hole rounds.
08-06-08, 06:47 AM
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I'd agree. I think that a Cat 3 racer would at least be the equivalent of a single digit.
You can be a decent golfer without tremendeous work. You can't be a Cat 3 without a fair amount of training.
My current handicap is a 12. Yesterday, I played the second round of golf I played this summer, and still played ok. You simply can't race if you only ride once every eight weeks.
I'd say, the guys playing in the Saturday Men's Golf Association games are the recreational riders.
The guys competing in the club championships are the 4/5's.
The guys in the first flight of the club championship, and competing in the local amateur tournaments are the Cat 3's. and up from there.
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08-06-08, 07:09 AM
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