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Old 09-26-08, 10:37 AM   #26
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Does anyone beat Benitez?
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Old 09-26-08, 10:45 AM   #27
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I demand an investigation into WR's sandbagging. Plus I don't think he deserves his pony.
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Does anyone beat Benitez?
rare, but I can recall fuentes, frick, and warno pulling it off.
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Old 09-26-08, 12:18 PM   #29
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Don't do it WR. Stay there until they kick you out now.
Yeah, part of me feels this way. If I just let it go, I can race the 1/2/3 and not concern myself with points. Most races are p/1/2 with 3 and 4 separate, but sometimes there's a 1/2/3.

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I demand an investigation into WR's sandbagging. Plus I don't think he deserves his pony.
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Old 09-26-08, 12:24 PM   #30
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The riders in texas are stronger than riders from other states. IF you had lived anywhere else, you probably would have had more wins
no. california, specifically so cal, has the most competitive races.
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Old 09-26-08, 12:32 PM   #31
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What state has the weakest fields? I need to race somewhere...... nevermind. I'd still suck.
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Old 09-26-08, 12:39 PM   #33
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no. california, specifically so cal, has the most competitive races.

How do you quantify this?
Or did I miss the sarcasm?
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Old 09-26-08, 12:39 PM   #34
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don't sweat it WR. cat 2 or not you still are gonna look like a massive tool on that trek of yours, and besides you're what, like 50? its not like you have a future in cycling, just stick with the old guys in masters.
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Old 09-26-08, 12:50 PM   #35
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How do you quantify this?
Or did I miss the sarcasm?
If you check the usac rankings you don't.
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WR, can you get a second opinion?
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The riders in texas are stronger than riders from other states. IF you had lived anywhere else, you probably would have had more wins
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Old 09-26-08, 01:48 PM   #38
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what a load of idiotic poppycock.
See, we were all expecting an "incorrect." and then you pull that out. Nicely done.
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Old 09-26-08, 02:50 PM   #39
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If you check the usac rankings you don't.
I'm not agreeing or disagreeing, but most races in SoCal don't submit results to the usac website for some reason. I've done about 30 races this year and have a total of 4 results listed on the usac website.
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That's a fair point. It's pretty impossible to quantify then, no?
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Old 09-26-08, 03:12 PM   #41
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Yeah. It really only tells you how well a rider stacks up against the local competition, right? It would tell you how well a rider compares to his competition, but doesn't tell you how good the competition is.
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Old 09-26-08, 03:39 PM   #42
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If you look at this year's National Champioship winners, there's CA, TX, OH, TN, AL, IL, etc...
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But even those are skewed towards what region the championship in.
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Very true. The regional stuff really just doesn't matter unless you travel to races a lot.

They don't have a Cat 3 national champion, so what do I care?
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Thank heavens. I'd have stayed a three until I won it.
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Meh, unless you have lived everwhere else, it is a hard statement to make. I know cycling is competitive in Texas, but I have heard California is quite a bit worse...
I think the top riders are probably about the same everywhere. It is just in some places like California and Texas (and others I'm sure) there are just more of the top riders than many other places.

Edit: it's just a numbers thing... more riders overall.

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I think the top riders are probably about the same everywhere. It is just in some places like California and Texas (and others I'm sure) there are just more of the top riders than many other places.

Edit: it's just a numbers thing... more riders overall.
That's the explanation RX has posted in the past. Makes perfect sense.
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This is typically a Texan statement. Everything is bigger in Texas, I'm quite sure of it.
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Old 09-26-08, 08:20 PM   #49
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Not to worry WR, there's so much sandbagging in the Texas field that nobody will blink an eye at you. Why would you want to upgrade, anyway? I mean seriously... what's in it for you, personally?
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^^^ Good question.

I think I have the talent to win a local (weekend) P/1/2 crit. I need to build power a bit more, but I think it's possible next season...

Other than that... ego? Just wanna show up to one with hairy legs?
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