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Old 08-13-10, 11:56 AM   #2526
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It's lookin' to be a little moist up in here tomorrow. I've got 80 miles planned. Do I need to do anything if I run my PT through a bunch of rain or are they somewhat moderately waterproof?

mattm - I hear you all have rain over your way some.
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What software is everyone using to view their data? I have Cycling Peaks WKO+ on my old computer but I don't believe I can transfer it to my current laptop.

Here is the garmin information from my first ride with the new powertap. This should make everyone here feel really good about their numbers.
http://connect.garmin.com/activity/44357738
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It's lookin' to be a little moist up in here tomorrow. I've got 80 miles planned. Do I need to do anything if I run my PT through a bunch of rain or are they somewhat moderately waterproof?

mattm - I hear you all have rain over your way some.
I ran my old one in severe storms and snow, never had any issues.
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What software is everyone using to view their data? I have Cycling Peaks WKO+ on my old computer but I don't believe I can transfer it to my current laptop.

Here is the garmin information from my first ride with the new powertap. This should make everyone here feel really good about their numbers.
http://connect.garmin.com/activity/44357738
golden cheetah, here. I like it, but I've never known anything else.

tough climb? that 55 cadence looked painful
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golden cheetah, here. I like it, but I've never known anything else.

tough climb? that 55 cadence looked painful
Thanks, I'll check it out. Does it work with the Garmin 705?

The climb is one of the easier ones around here, I'm just really, really, really out of shape.
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I'd be surprised if I have many entire rides with negative decoupling, but I'll have long segments if I am really steady and not blown. Here is one from the other day.
Since we were talking about this recently, Negative decoupling for my entire ride today.

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Entire workout (132 watts):
	Duration:  	1:47:27
	Work:      	854 kJ
	TSS:       	44.3 (intensity factor 0.498)
	Norm Power:	140
	VI:        	1.05
	Pw:HR:      	-5.84%
	Distance:  	32.064 mi
	Elevation Gain:    	902 ft
	Elevation Loss:   	872 ft
	Grade:     	0.0 %  (30 ft)
			Min	Max	Avg
	Power:       	0	332	132 	watts
	Heart Rate:  	83	143	115 	bpm
	Cadence:     	19	115	86 	rpm
	Speed:       	1.3	38.2	17.9 	mph
	Altitude:    	-60	102	19 	ft
	Crank Torque:	0	395	133 	lb-in
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Since we were talking about this recently, Negative decoupling for my entire ride today.

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Entire workout (132 watts):
	Duration:  	1:47:27
	Work:      	854 kJ
	TSS:       	44.3 (intensity factor 0.498)
	Norm Power:	140
	VI:        	1.05
	Pw:HR:      	-5.84%
	Distance:  	32.064 mi
	Elevation Gain:    	902 ft
	Elevation Loss:   	872 ft
	Grade:     	0.0 %  (30 ft)
			Min	Max	Avg
	Power:       	0	332	132 	watts
	Heart Rate:  	83	143	115 	bpm
	Cadence:     	19	115	86 	rpm
	Speed:       	1.3	38.2	17.9 	mph
	Altitude:    	-60	102	19 	ft
	Crank Torque:	0	395	133 	lb-in
Recovery ride?
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Thanks, I'll check it out. Does it work with the Garmin 705?
yeah. you just import the history file. I'm on 705 as well, no issue at all.
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I know that someone on here works on GC. Just a recommendation, it would be cool if it calculated decoupling for each interval. That would be really useful for longer (10', 20', 30') intervals, IMO.

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Since we were talking about this recently, Negative decoupling for my entire ride today.

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Entire workout (132 watts):
	Duration:  	1:47:27
	Work:      	854 kJ
	TSS:       	44.3 (intensity factor 0.498)
	Norm Power:	140
	VI:        	1.05
	Pw:HR:      	-5.84%
	Distance:  	32.064 mi
	Elevation Gain:    	902 ft
	Elevation Loss:   	872 ft
	Grade:     	0.0 %  (30 ft)
			Min	Max	Avg
	Power:       	0	332	132 	watts
	Heart Rate:  	83	143	115 	bpm
	Cadence:     	19	115	86 	rpm
	Speed:       	1.3	38.2	17.9 	mph
	Altitude:    	-60	102	19 	ft
	Crank Torque:	0	395	133 	lb-in
My ride today ended up with negative decoupling as well, but it was not a recovery ride.

Code:

Metrics*
xPower (watts):
170
Relative Intensity:
0.804
BikeScore™:
143
Daniels Points:
93
Daniels EqP (watts):
171
Aerobic Decoupling (%):
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Old 08-13-10, 03:19 PM   #2537
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Sometimes I consider buying a HR strap for my PT head.

What are the benefits of having both HR and power? I wear a HR monitor on my MTB, but that's because I don't have power.

Just to see if im having issues getting my HR up or issues with it comming down between efforts...

Lets tell you one thing, power says another, HR tells you if one is lying
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yeah. you just import the history file. I'm on 705 as well, no issue at all.
Thanks. Where are the files located for the Garmin or do I need to treat the Garmin like a flash drive? It won't download straight from the Garmin to the program. I can do it using it like a flash drive but it's sort of a pain.

As aside note, the program isn't nearly as nice as Cycling Peaks WKO but it's free so I can't complain.
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x:\Garmin\History, where "x" is the drive letter that your unit gets assigned.
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Thanks, so just get it straight off of the unit I guess. That works for me.
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Whenever I wear my HR strap with my PM it only picks up randomly. It'll go 10 minutes without reading, and then read it for a minute, and then cut out again for a bit. So I never actually get real readings, hence I don't wear it anymore. Is there something that I'm doing wrong to cause this? Do you have to calibrate the strap to the computer somehow? I never really put much thought in to it, but I've considered wearing it lately so I guess I should figure it out. I have a wired PT and the standard cycleops computer as well.
I had this happen to me today. I replaced the batteries in the strap and head unit and it seems better now.
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OK.. the GC 705 import error bug is really starting to aggravate me. I'm sitting here with a tcx for a 5:15 ride from today and it insists it was 6:05, so a lot of the metrics are screwed up. This is not the only one, but it's the most recent.

The bug is basically that GC tries to be "smart" and "fill in" blank data because it's just assuming the tcx file is wrong.

Does anyone know an easy way to cut out sections of the ride?

This is to the point where I'm thinking of the parallels / wko route...
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OK.. the GC 705 import error bug is really starting to aggravate me. I'm sitting here with a tcx for a 5:15 ride from today and it insists it was 6:05, so a lot of the metrics are screwed up. This is not the only one, but it's the most recent.

The bug is basically that GC tries to be "smart" and "fill in" blank data because it's just assuming the tcx file is wrong.

Does anyone know an easy way to cut out sections of the ride?

This is to the point where I'm thinking of the parallels / wko route...
Couldn't you export as a csv file and edit it by hand? Or import it using the garmin software (idk if it is on os x though) and then sending it to gc, not sure if that would help, but it is a possibility.
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Does anyone know an easy way to cut out sections of the ride?
Easy is relative... I use First Object XML Editor to edit out sections of TCX files.
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The bug is basically that GC tries to be "smart" and "fill in" blank data because it's just assuming the tcx file is wrong.

Does anyone know an easy way to cut out sections of the ride?
Are you using a version of GC with an editor tab? I haven't used it but it looks like you can easily delete portions of the ride. You would still be left with time gaps but the ride time should be correct.
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Easy is relative... I use First Object XML Editor to edit out sections of TCX files.
there's no data in the tcx file because the system is paused. it appears that gc's tcx importer sees a time gap of <x> minutes and say "oh, there must be damage in this tcx file, so we'll guesstimate and make up some data for this stretch".

this behavior only started with 1.2...
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Are you using a version of GC with an editor tab? I haven't used it but it looks like you can easily delete portions of the ride. You would still be left with time gaps but the ride time should be correct.
yup, thanks for the tip.
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