jonestr

Were you in an aero position for you TT? If so, have you done work in this position frequently this off season?

baribari

Is there a way to estimate your wattage without any power measuring equipment?

ie, by average speed over flat terrain, etc...

umd

Not for any useful purpose... but the best way to estimate is to a steady effort up a consistent grade, because it isolates (or reduces) the most variables

baribari

How do you estimate watts with a climb? Lots of algebra + known variables?

umd

https://www.analyticcycling.com/

kudude

and the correct answer was: hub batteries.

I've only got about 800 miles on it, so I thought it was too soon, but who knows how long the wired comp was sitting on the shelf before I built the wheel. I didn't get any warning before it dropped out. Just 'gone'

aperez8264

Just a general question: When you guys are on group rides w/ teammates, do you leave the PM in avg. watts or do you leave it showing actual wattage at that point. I usually leave in avg. watts screen so I can pace myself, which usually works well for me. If we do jam sessions are then I will put it in interval but still look at avg. watts. My coach generally leaves it in actual watts screen and only uses the intervals when we do them on the road.

I bring this up, b/c today on a training ride we were doing TTT practice and one of my teammates whos a TT specialist took a really long and hard pull and wanted to know what wattage I was putting up during his pulls. I had my PM set up w/ avg showing; I wish I could have told him the real numbers....

ljrichar

Argh. I tried using my Ptap in HR mode so that I could use it on the cross bike. I also set it to calculate time based on receiving HR data. Even though I always saw data displayed, it lost an hour in there somewhere. Not a big deal but I'd like to capture that info in WKO to see a correct weekly duration. I know that I can manually estimate TSS but couldn't find a way to edit the duration of the ride.

Athlete, Joe

Finally paying some attention to Performance Management Chart on WKO+. I'm not sure I "calibrated" my CTL, ATL and TSB scores at the beginning of the season and can't tell if the numbers 1) mean anything or 2) can be interpreted by someone else (i.e. I have a TSB of -6, do I need a break?)

There are settings (CTL/ATL constant, starting values) but have no idea if they are correct or can be "back dated" so that it gives me correct numbers based on my training today since the start of the season.

P.S. I never really stopped riding or had a long layoff to get nominal baseline values. Does this matter?

thanks

aham23

i have a garmin 705 head unit. on page one, the main page i have 3 second avg power showing. bascially real time with some smoothing. on page two i have avg pwr for the effort. i rarely go to page two during ride though. later.

kudude

after you've used wko+ for a few more days than the "time constant", then ATL/CTL mean something. i.e. after 2 weeks your ATL is "right". Unfortunately the time constant on CTL is default 42. So if you've only used it for a month, it's not built up to steam. You can just set it to a starting value of something you think is reasonable, and then the CTL is pretty significant. Also, -6 TSB is not generally something to worry about. That just means that you are doing approximately as much work now as your body is used to. -20 or so I think is significant. Depends on the person

fordfasterr

what does this mean?

kudude

ur gonna be tired tomorrow (today?)


edit: also, sprint harder next time

fordfasterr

I need some guidance to help understand the results from this plot...

dmb2786

should a max 5min interval be an Anaerobic Capacity effort, or should i re-adjust my FTP?

waterrockets 

That looks like a mean-maximal plot except where it turns up as it goes to the right. How was it generated?

For a 5' test, it's probably good to start pretty hard (well into the AWC area) just to get the benefit of those systems, but no so much that you can't maintain a significant VO2Max effort for the remainder.

Do you have some test data to share?

fordfasterr

I uploaded 2 crits and 1 road race into garmin training center, then exported the files and uploaded all 3 into cheetah, then ran the CP plot page and it spit that chart out...

silversx80

It looks like all it's doing is taking a Monod method to figure out the curve based on several averages from your rides.

silversx80

Speaking of golden cheetah and garmin, has anyone figured out why some can't get the power data from a garmin connect export (edge 500)?

fordfasterr

With help from the forum I got it to work... this is what you must do:

1. upload your data to connect.garmin.com (gc)
2. export the tcx file from gc.
3. inport the tcx file into garmin training center (gtc)
4. export the txc file from gtc.
5. inport the txc file into golden cheetah.


enjoy !

silversx80

Awesome, I'll give that a try. Thanks!



Edit: Sweet, it worked.

dmb2786

I did this to figure out how I should pace myself in a 2.75k TT this Saturday.

Peak 5min (334 watts):
Duration: 5:01
Work: 100 kJ
TSS: 13 (intensity factor 1.249)
Norm Power: 325
VI: 0.97
Pw:HR: n/a
Pa:HR: n/a
Distance: 1.805 mi
Min Max Avg
Power: 106 683 334 watts
Cadence: 36 124 93 rpm
Speed: 8.1 32.4 21.5 mph
Pace 1:51 7:26 2:48 min/mi
Hub Torque: 22 397 111 lb-in
Crank Torque: 106 1131 308 lb-in


5:20 (307 watts):
Duration: 5:20
Work: 98 kJ
TSS: 12.6 (intensity factor 1.19)
Norm Power: 309
VI: 1.01
Pw:HR: n/a
Pa:HR: n/a
Distance: 1.952 mi
Min Max Avg
Power: 162 666 307 watts
Cadence: 29 149 93 rpm
Speed: 10.1 31.2 21.9 mph
Pace 1:55 5:58 2:44 min/mi
Hub Torque: 40 302 101 lb-in
Crank Torque: 97 1157 292 lb-in

5:03 (326 watts):
Duration: 5:04
Work: 99 kJ
TSS: 13.3 (intensity factor 1.255)
Norm Power: 326
VI: 1
Pw:HR: n/a
Pa:HR: n/a
Distance: 1.792 mi
Min Max Avg
Power: 0 671 326 watts
Cadence: 35 156 91 rpm
Speed: 5.5 38.5 21.2 mph
Pace 1:33 10:58 2:50 min/mi
Hub Torque: 0 430 110 lb-in
Crank Torque: 0 1490 313 lb-in

The second interval was a failure because of ice around a turn and losing track of time.

My FTP is set at 260. My anaerobic capacity zone on WKO is 318 and up. I thought a 5min effort might be a VO2 max thing.

fordfasterr

From the last road race:

Peak 5s (1112 watts)
Peak 10s (1050 watts)
Peak 20s (983 watts)
Peak 30s (909 watts)
Peak 1min (646 watts)
Peak 2min (529 watts)
Peak 5min (368 watts)
Peak 10min (346 watts)
Peak 20min (286 watts)
Peak 30min (244 watts)
Peak 60min (228 watts)

kudude

holy hell. This is in the 4's? You don't look fat......are you upgrading soon?

grwoolf

If you don't care about having your data in Garmin Connect, you can just skip steps 1-3 and just download from the 500 to training center (and then export the tcx for Golden Cheetah). The problem seems to be the tcx files generated from Garmin Connect (from the 500) don't play well with golden cheetah.