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Old 12-02-08, 07:20 AM
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My bet is he wasn't going to get the deal he wanted to ride the Giro instead of the Tour. So now it's the Tour again.
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Originally Posted by El Diablo Rojo
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I'm just not a fan of speculation and judgment from the sidelines. Call me an optimist.
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I'm just not a fan of speculation and judgment from the sidelines. Call me an optimist.
diablo rode with him, so he was "in the game" at least for 20-30 minutes.
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Originally Posted by Bob Dopolina
My bet is he wasn't going to get the deal he wanted to ride the Giro instead of the Tour. So now it's the Tour again.
I thought I heard he was going to ride the Giro?
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You can bash LA or like LA but he is promoting the sport of Bike Racing like no one else can. Go Lance
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Doesn't the DS decide who rides which races? In theory anyways. Or not so much? Not that it matters in practice with Johan.
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riders will sit down with team management at the start of the season and talk about their desired race schedule. Then the DS and the other directors will decide a final schedule. If you're a team leader, you usually get the races you want. If you're a worker bee, well, pray.
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Originally Posted by Ames
You can bash LA or like LA but he is promoting the sport of Bike Racing in America like no one else can. Go Lance
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Seems like just last week Lance was taking a pass on the Tour due to personal safety concerns. When did that go out the window?
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When he remembered he'd be racing in France.
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Seriously, guys? I'm sick of the doping allegations, especially when you have nothing to base it on. Plus, nobody gets tested more than GT winners.
ya but they said mircera could've been being used for the past 2 years... when it's that new it's hard/impossible to detect since no one is looking for it... remember levi's UBER time trial at the end of last years TdF?? suspicious! levi has never been outspoken against doping, that also makes me suspicious... alberto too. riders that don't talk smack about dopers make me suspicious.
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Originally Posted by daytonian
diablo rode with him, so he was "in the game" at least for 20-30 minutes.

This is true and in the hour I gleamed the 'inner Lance' so I am the BF expert

Seriousely though, I believe Lance doped. Do I care that Lance doped? Not in so much that he was doing what the rest of the peloton was doing so in essense he was playing on a level field. What proof do I have that LA doped? None. What I do have is this.

First all of LA's main rivals have admitted to or been suspended for doping. The two big ones are Der Jan and Basso. Given the fact that Jan was using EPO and Lance trounced him it would make Lance super human if he did it clean. Is that possible? Yes. Is that likely? No.

Second all of LA's lieutenants have been busted for doping (George excepted). Tyler, Roberto, and Flandis are all dopers. This is either an odd coincidence or they were just continuing the practices they learned from their days under LA tutelage. Again here are guys who did quite well in era of pretty rampant blood doping and EPO.

Now Lance may be the most amazing cyclist that has ever been born. He was able to consistently hammer into the ground the worlds elite cyclists while all those cyclists took PED's and he was clean. This is possible, I cannot say with 100% confidence he doped. I can however use an open mind and see that the likely hood of him doping is greater than him riding clean.
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EDR, I agree with all of your observations but still emphasize that it's all just circumstantial. Also circumstantial is Lance's performance at Leaville, losing to Weins. Was he doping then, too?
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Originally Posted by bdcheung
Seriously, guys? I'm sick of the doping allegations, especially when you have nothing to base it on. Plus, nobody gets tested more than GT winners.

Marion Jones was tested a lot too... And never once did a test say positive


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Originally Posted by bdcheung
EDR, I agree with all of your observations but still emphasize that it's all just circumstantial. Also circumstantial is Lance's performance at Leaville, losing to Weins. Was he doping then, too?
I agree that it is circumstantial. I don't leave out the possibility that LA is a freak of nature and has a gift that is beyond anyone who has ever raced a bicycle. I just don't think the odds are in his favor.
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Lance looks to be in pretty good shape. *shrug* good on him if he ends up racing/winning the tour again. I watched last 3 years, I'll watch again. good racing is good racing, doping or not.
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I don't know what to believe:

This




or Contador's Twitter

@lancearmstrong https://twitpic.com/oz1v - ok, nice,, but keep on training.. i ll need your help to win 2009 tour de FRANCE 11:08 AM Dec 2nd from TwitPic in reply to lancearmstrong
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Originally Posted by El Diablo Rojo
I can however use an open mind and see that the likely hood of him doping is greater than him riding clean.
But you can't even spell likelihood.
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Originally Posted by mike9903

or Contador's Twitter
i dont know how twitter works, but do you really think that's AC?
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The guy holding Lance's hand with the bad teeth? I'm pretty sure that's him, but those skinny climbers all look the same to me.
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Originally Posted by gsteinb
The guy holding Lance's hand with the bad teeth? I'm pretty sure that's him, but those skinny climbers all look the same to me.
So his teeth are a bit crooked. So are mine - I choose not to give an orthodontist 10K to make thme look pretty. At least I am not skinny.
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Originally Posted by dmb2786
i dont know how twitter works, but do you really think that's AC?
But you don't know how twitter works....anything else for that matter.
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Originally Posted by El Diablo Rojo
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