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furiousferret 12-08-08 10:07 AM

Alberto Contador - Next Gen of Clean Riders
 
So let me preface this by saying I think the guy is the future of the sport and will probably be put down with the greats when he retires.

That being said, why does every keep referring to him as 'the new generation' of clean riders and Lance as 'the old generation' of dopers. Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but none of Lance's team ever got pulled from the TdF for doping accusations. As you all remember, Contador's team, Liberty Seguros, got pulled from the 2006 TdF for Operation Puerto. The year prior his teammate Roberto Heras was dq'ed from the Vuelta (which he won) for EPO. Out of all this the 2 to come out peerless where Contador and Vinokourov, but we all know about Vino's transfusion in 07, and his subsequent ban thereafter. The article below has alot of info on Contador and his Puerto involvement. If you want to dismiss it as slander or gossip that's fine too, because this is really my point; why does Contador get a pass on doping and Lance doesn't?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/oth...legations.html

Which leaves Contador, who although clean, has just as must if not more baggage than LA in regards to doping, yet he gets the rep as a clean rider.

mike9903 12-08-08 10:15 AM

Here we go again

:popcorn:

gsteinb 12-08-08 10:46 AM

can we get a doping forum? these discussion are freaking ********ed.

Grumpy McTrumpy 12-08-08 10:52 AM

Where is the non-tarded section of BF anyway? I cannot find it.

bdcheung 12-08-08 10:53 AM

the racing forum used to be it...

patentcad 12-08-08 10:53 AM


Originally Posted by gsteinb (Post 7985028)
can we get a doping forum? these discussion are freaking ********ed.

If you hadn't notice, this already is an r-word* dopey forum.

*I love the fact that this term has established itself in the PC Dictionary.

gsteinb 12-08-08 10:58 AM


Originally Posted by Grumpy McTrumpy (Post 7985065)
Where is the non-tarded section of BF anyway? I cannot find it.


touche!

patentcad 12-08-08 10:59 AM


Originally Posted by gsteinb (Post 7985101)
touche!

Easy on the French swear words Pony Boy.

Grumpy McTrumpy 12-08-08 11:00 AM

****** **** ********* *** **** ****

bac 12-08-08 11:11 AM

I think ONLY those with a vested interest in cycling as a profit making machine are stating that today's riders are the "clean generation". It's propaganda, folks. The more it's repeated, the more valid it seems in the mind.

If you look at the facts (teams/riders getting dinged left and right in TODAY'S pro cycling), doping is quite obviously still a HUGE part of pro riding. Some may argue that today's rider is even more doped up than riders of previous generations. Certainly, stating that today's riders are more clean than the riders of yesterday is just plain foolish, and without any merit.

... Brad

DrWJODonnell 12-08-08 02:16 PM

Contador = not yet shown to be dirty.

Not the same as clean in my mind. Still, that's an opinion. To address the original post? The year that all the big names got busted left new people to fill those big names. AC is just one of them. As stated before. Propaganda.

By they way, when was generation X born?

gsteinb 12-08-08 02:26 PM


Originally Posted by furiousferret (Post 7984816)
Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but none of Lance's team ever got pulled from the TdF for doping accusations.

CoughLandisCough

prendrefeu 12-08-08 02:45 PM


Originally Posted by DrWJODonnell (Post 7986327)
Contador = not yet shown to be dirty.

Not the same as clean in my mind. Still, that's an opinion. To address the original post? The year that all the big names got busted left new people to fill those big names. AC is just one of them. As stated before. Propaganda.

By they way, when was generation X born?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation_X

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation_Y

gsteinb 12-08-08 02:58 PM

maybe not the tour, but

coughHerascough

gsteinb 12-08-08 02:58 PM

the not funny thing is I can do this all day, limited only by the board's flood control.

Racer Ex 12-08-08 03:34 PM


Originally Posted by furiousferret (Post 7984816)
why does Contador get a pass on doping and Lance doesn't?

Ask Eddie Merckx.

sgrundy 12-08-08 04:58 PM

Because Lance is a doper and Contador isn't.

furiousferret 12-08-08 05:34 PM


Originally Posted by gsteinb (Post 7986596)
maybe not the tour, but

coughHerascough

True, and Flandis as well. Tons of circumstancial evidence abounds around both Contador and Armstrong. When I referred to team, I meant the whole team, such as Liberty Seguros getting stripped from even showing up to race.

gsteinb 12-08-08 05:37 PM

Is that the standard now? Christ, no wonder I stopped following the sport.

rankin116 12-08-08 06:04 PM

You sure do know a lot about a sport you don't follow.

Edit: And I know how to type

gsteinb 12-08-08 06:18 PM

Know like what? Not sure I could name 4 guys on Astana. Hell, I'm not sure I could name 8 current pro riders. Good try though. Knowing the name of guys who got booted from major stage doesn't make you a cycling fan, it just means you read a newspaper once in a while.

rankin116 12-08-08 06:47 PM

I wasn't trying anything. I don't know if I could name people on most teams either, but I do like watching the races that I can.

FatguyRacer 12-08-08 06:48 PM


Originally Posted by gsteinb (Post 7985028)
can we get a doping forum? these discussion are freaking ********ed.

Only if it includes tips. :lol:


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